Generators-is it ok to carry in wagon

Submitted: Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 01:03
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Hi all generator people, I don't know if this a silly question or not but where does everyone carry their generators. Is it okay in the wagon. What about fumes or smells from the motor. This will be our first trip with a generator.
Thanks in advance for your advice.
Michael
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Reply By: V64Runner - Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 01:14

Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 01:14
I have a two stroke genny that I use for a bit of lighting etc and I carry mine in a cardbox, which it came in, in the back of the 4x4. I always make sure that there is no fuel in the tank in case of accidents etc, but carry a five litre certified jery can with the premixed fuel. Also make sure the generator is securely strapped down where ever you put it. Hope that this is of some help.
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Reply By: Flywest - Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 01:46

Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 01:46
No

The carbon monoxide fumes from the exhaust will put you to sleep at the wheel. (& heat from the exhaust might ignite the cardboard box its stored in!).

CO combines with the heamoglobin in your blood 200 times more easily than oxygen - which is why it kills.

Lastly any petrol inside the fuel tank can emit vapours that can ignite inside the vehcile as a blast when say a door is opened and the door switch and dome light fittings create an electrical spark, when doors / lights are opened/operated.

Theres too many good reasons NOT to carry a genny inside your vehicle - on the roof or in a trailer at least!

Of course this doesn't apply to a MEG (Motionless Electromagnetic Generator) Googles your friend remember! ;o)

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Follow Up By: ben_gv3 - Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:58

Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:58
Flywest, I think everyone assumes the OP is asking about carrying the genset when it's OFF. I can't imagine carbon monoxide being a problem when the geset is not operating.

I also sure not many people would put a hot genset in a cardboard box.
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Follow Up By: DesF - Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 15:50

Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 15:50
Hi Have a Honda E350 two stroke generator and have been carrying it inside the vehicle on and off for about 10 years , no problems as they have a sealing vent on the cap as well.
also as stated above , I dont think anyone would put a hot genny in a carton?????. DUH?
I fill it before a trip and it is always carried with a empty carby, just turn the fuel off and let it run out ( on low speed).
Good tip for any small motor as it leaves the carby dry and clean,
Cheers Des.
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 16:07

Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 16:07
Flywest ya bugger, can't help yourself can you?

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Follow Up By: ross - Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 22:24

Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 22:24
I have a Yamaha efs 1000 and with the fuel cap vent turned off,you can not small any fumes whatsoever.
I cant see it being a problem if its properly secured
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Follow Up By: V64Runner - Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 22:28

Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 22:28
Hi there FLYWEST. Not being rude , but I thought it was obvious that the generator would be stone cold after you have finished for the night, and then you pack up, drain what little fuel is left, leave the cap off to vent the tank and then head off to where ever. I used to carry a 5.KV Briggs & Stratton around in the back of my L300 plus a te litre jerry can in case the geeny ran out of fule while at work. Did this five days a week for 14 years before retiring 3 years ago. Now the genny is in the shed for when we have power blackouts and can run a couple of extension leads into the house to keep the fridge and a few lights going plus the TV. The two stroke generator has travelled well over the past three years on out travels, and its never out in the cardboard box when its hot. Thats plain bloody stupid. So In answer to the orignal post enquiring about carry the genny in the back of the vehicle I still say yes.
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Follow Up By: Flywest - Friday, Jan 30, 2009 at 13:35

Friday, Jan 30, 2009 at 13:35
It would be funny if there was a few smiley emotions to convey the mischevous tinkle in my eye as i was typing all that!

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Follow Up By: V64Runner - Friday, Jan 30, 2009 at 14:16

Friday, Jan 30, 2009 at 14:16
Oh you wicked so and so. Should have known better that you were poking fun at my post. Got to hand it to you for that one. Cheers & all the best.
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Reply By: Wayne David - Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:12

Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:12
Flywest - I'm not sure if you're having a lend or not.

Personally I would have thought stored safely in the car was a damn good idea for such an expensive piece of kit.
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Reply By: The Rambler( W.A.) - Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:48

Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:48
Have carried a Honda 10i on many trips in the back of a Troopy with no problems.Once they are secured properly and the fuel cap is turned to "off" I can't see a problem.
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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 13:05

Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 13:05
Mine is always in the back just make sure you drain the fuel out and the vent is closed. Mine never smells so it's never bothered me
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Reply By: Motherhen - Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 13:59

Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 13:59
When we first got ours, we carried it in its box in the back of the Patrol (we got it just before we left, as it was hot and we wanted to run the caravan air con occasionally). Although we ran it dry, it did occasionally smell of petrol. We never ran it while in the vehicle, and only used it when camped on our own. We have since had a genny box made for it on the a-frame of the van.

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Follow Up By: Member - Fred G NSW - Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 18:50

Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 18:50
Motherhen, any chance of a pic of your genny box setup as that is exactly what I want to do?
Fred.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 19:10

Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 19:10
Fred, i have sent it by email. Let me know if it doesn't reach you, or if you have any questions.

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Follow Up By: Member - Fred G NSW - Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 19:20

Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 19:20
Got it, looks great. Thank you for that MH.

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Reply By: Member - Michael C (WA) - Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 14:42

Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 14:42
Thanks Guys for your input. What happened was I bought a Yamaha EF2400 and because I am a shorty, I had problems lifting it into the back of the cruiser, so I made a winch to lift it into the back of the cruiser. Then the thought occured to me, that what if it is not advisable to carry a genset in the vehicle, hence the thread.
Regards Michael
ps I have made a movie clip of the winch in action but have no idea of how to show it on the forum.
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 14:46

Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 14:46
Put the movie clip on a site such as Photobucket and then put a link in your post on this site to the clip.

Or MM me and I'll give you an email address and I'll post your clip for you.

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Reply By: robertbruce - Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 17:11

Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 17:11
GOGOGO the EF series Yamaha's genny's. They are quieter, lighter and more economical than the competitor
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Reply By: Douglas C - Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 20:56

Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 20:56
Hi Michael,
This may be a silly observation , but I notice the bars on the WDH seem to have a very small clearance at the rear ... but I am only mentioning as enlarged your profile image ....I may be imagining things , and maybe you can let me know if I am worrying unnecessarily on your behalf . The angle of the bars can be altered and the height raised by using the adjustments on the WDH itself. Anyway ... enjoy your travels ...caravanning is so much fun.
Regards,
Charles (Qld)
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 21:43

Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 at 21:43
5 links is the accepted minimum for the chains and his rig is sitting pretty level.
Any less and you could break a bar on tight corners due to lack of length of chain





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Follow Up By: Member - Michael C (WA) - Friday, Jan 30, 2009 at 01:27

Friday, Jan 30, 2009 at 01:27
Hi Douglas C,
As Graham H has said, I have managed to get the van and cruiser pretty close to level. The height from the ground to the bar is well within the required clearance as per the WDH specs. I cannot remember off hand by how much. One more link adjustment makes the van and cruiser peak at the coupling. I dare say that is the best I will get and am very happy with the result compared to without the WDH.
Thanks guys for all the response. I sure am going to miss the forum as I fly out to work bush tomorrow for the next three weeks and unfortunately on this job we will have no signal.
So long guys till next time.
Michael
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Reply By: Ray - Friday, Jan 30, 2009 at 09:07

Friday, Jan 30, 2009 at 09:07
Mine is carried in a metal box adjacent to the spare wheel on the rear crash bar of my caravan
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Reply By: Dunco (NSW) - Friday, Jan 30, 2009 at 14:35

Friday, Jan 30, 2009 at 14:35
I carry mine in the front boot of my caravan, along with a small plastic, approved jerry.


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Reply By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Friday, Jan 30, 2009 at 17:14

Friday, Jan 30, 2009 at 17:14
Is it safe to carry one inside a caravan, eg under the bed? I have a Yamaha 1000. Would there be a petrol smell in the van?
Rodn
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