fish types.

Submitted: Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 16:15
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While away the old man caught some whiting, nothing wrong with that a nice eating fish. But in conversation about his catch per day and the bloke camped next to him the size of fillets came up.
Dad said as all his fish were the normal 32cm or larger the bloke camped next to him were all around 150 to 250cm. on investigation he found that the other camper was targeting silver whiting. Apparently no size limit.
Now my question, I always thought here in S.A. there was only two types of whiting. King George and yellow fin. Know im being told that there are four. King George, yellow fin, silver and weed whiting.
I looked in the S.A. fisheries sight and they only list the two, K. George and yellow fin.
So my question, how many different types are there and is there a size and bag limit on the others if they exist?
These old blokes really know how to mess with your head.
cheers shane.
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Reply By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 16:33

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 16:33
I just Googled Whiting, and found there are several types,
King George, Yellow Fin, Sand Whiting, Stout Whiting, ect ect.

Cheers
Daza
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Follow Up By: handy - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 17:20

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 17:20
sand whiting and yellow fin are the same fish. cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - shane (SA) - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 17:43

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 17:43
I always thought this but i may be wrong. I also thought weed whiting were baby King George, but i live a sheltered life.
cheers.
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Follow Up By: That Troopy Bloke (SA) - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 19:23

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 19:23
Sand Whiting and Silver Whiting are the same fish, and are probably more common than Yellow Fin Whiting. They are generally small though...if you are finding them at 250mm (cm?), grab them, as they are very sweet eating. There is no size or bag limit on silvers.
These are generally the small fish that you are swimming amongst in the shallows on Adelaide metro beaches.

Cheers
Glenn
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Follow Up By: handy - Tuesday, Feb 03, 2009 at 06:56

Tuesday, Feb 03, 2009 at 06:56
i tend to disagree, the yellow fin or sand whiting is the same as we get on the east coast, the silver is different again. cheers
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 16:35

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 16:35
Shane, I'm no expert, they change te rules every time I go fishing, but I reccon there are the 4 mentioned PLUS a couple of relations. Grunters/ bleep ties are related, I understand and are never targeted, although thy eat well if skinned.
Weedy whiting are generally mottled green coloured and are not targeted either, but are OK.

The silver and yellowfin are excellent eating fish. Commonly caught in shallow water o the far west (SA) coast.

King George are by far the biggest of them all and the minimum lengh is 32cm in SA now, I think, and there are also fairly low bag limits.

If the others have size limits at all, they are much less than the KGW.

Cheers,
Peter
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Reply By: Matt Watson - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 17:07

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 17:07
Whiting 150CM - 250CM?? You sure their wasn't a mix up with units of measurement? I've certainly never seen a whiting 2 1/2 meters long
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Follow Up By: Member - shane (SA) - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 17:39

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 17:39
Sorry Matt, yes you are right. mm is the measurement.
cheers shane.
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Follow Up By: Matt Watson - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 18:22

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 18:22
thought so, a school of 2 1/2 meter whiting would be crazy!
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Reply By: Member No 1- Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 17:09

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 17:09
King George, yellow fin, silver and weed whiting are the 4 i know in SA
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Reply By: Member - Tony B (Malanda FNQ) - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 17:32

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 17:32
One of the hardest things to do is identify allowable fish species, especially in FNQld. Not so easy there because as this link shows Bag Limits Spiecies
They only show 2 species. I have found you have to do lots of research and if it goes to court one day I wonder if a judge would charge you. Cheers Tony
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Reply By: get outmore - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 17:52

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 17:52
weedy whiting ae not a whiting - just look a bit like them they are actually a wrasse
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Reply By: Motherhen - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 18:01

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 18:01
Different names in different states is confusing, but in SW of WA we get sand whiting (small, light coloured almost translucent), King George (with spots) and silver whiting. I don't think we have bag limits on the sandies (never used to be), but again, each state is different and with diminishing numbers for the rec fishers, controls are being tightened.

At least in SA on all those lovely little jetties they have a chart on display.

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Reply By: Bricky - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 18:58

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 18:58
As mentioned the way I understand it there are 4 types of Whiting in SA. The reason that only KG and Yellowfin get a mention in fishing guide is that they are the only 2 subject to bag and size limits.
From all reports over here the Sand Whiting is also very good eating but is not subject to limits.
Weedy Whiting are better thrown back, taste like ####
Whiting, King George
Sillaginodes punctata
Marine

All waters east of longitude 136o (runs through Cape Catastrophe just south of Port Lincoln) including all waters of Spencer Gulf and Gulf St Vincent
Minimum legal length:

31 cm measured from tip of snout to tip of tail
Personal daily bag limit: 12
Daily boat limit: 36

All waters west of longitude 136o
Minimum legal length: 30 cm measured from tip of snout to tip of tail
Personal daily bag limit: 12
Daily boat limit: 36

More information about King George whiting
Whiting, Yellowfin
Sillago schomburgkii Marine

Minimum legal length: 24 cm measured from tip of snout to tip of tail
Personal daily bag limit: 20
Daily boat limit: 60

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Follow Up By: Member - Tony S (WA) - Tuesday, Feb 03, 2009 at 16:12

Tuesday, Feb 03, 2009 at 16:12
Just had to poke my snoz into this one.
You are quite correct with what you say Daryl.

The sand whiting is the Southern School whiting -- Sillago bassensis.
Of which, as you say there are no restrictions and occurs in southern W.A. right through S.A.

Great discussion.

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Reply By: Member - shane (SA) - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 19:35

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 19:35
thanks for replies, we learn something every day.
cheers.
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Tuesday, Feb 03, 2009 at 09:34

Tuesday, Feb 03, 2009 at 09:34
In Queensland we have a smaller whiting known as a "winter or Diver" whiting which have no legal limit and they frequent weed beds and are mainly plentiful in winter.

Sweet eating but you need heaps for a feed.

Also known as Trumpeter according to wikipedia

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