Toyota stub axle question.

Submitted: Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 20:41
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Evening all,

I am looking at fitting manual locking hubs to my '97' 80 series,

Would troopy stub axles suit? not sure on the differences or wether there the same as I have the manual locking hubs off a troopy and checked to see if they fit to my 80. they fitted perfectly except for needing longer stub axles.

Hence the reason for the question about troopy stub axles.

Anyone know? (does anyone understand my jibberish!!!)

Cheers,

Dave
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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 21:36

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 21:36
Why? What are you trying to achieve?
If your 80 series is the base model it will already have free wheeling hubs.
If your 80 is a GXL then it is designed to be constant 4wd, if you fit FWH it won't move unless you lock the centre diff which means the entire drive train is being driven anyway whether the hubs are locked or not.
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Follow Up By: Selasticman - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 22:09

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 22:09
Hi Ozhumvee,

What I am trying to acheive is:
1. better fuel consumption
2. less wear and tear on vehicle drive line
3. no need for constant 4wd on bitumum

Why do you drive a Hummer when a Hilux, Patrol or Cruiser will do the same thing.

Its just a personal preference, something I would like to do.

Cheers,

Dave
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Follow Up By: Ozhumvee - Tuesday, Feb 03, 2009 at 06:03

Tuesday, Feb 03, 2009 at 06:03
Hey Dave don't get your knickers in a twist I wasn't having ago but interested as to why you were thinking of fitting FWH.
To answer your questions as best I can, I've owned and driven Cruisers since 1979, seven of them to be exact, from when FWH were not fitted (neither were heaters or passenger side sunvisors!).
1/ Fuel consumption will not change to a degree that can be measured by normal usage. BTDT, it does however make a very small difference on lighter vehicles like the early Hilux's.
2/ Bugger all difference in wear and tear and any gains are passed onto the next owner unless you keep the vehicle forever.
3/ constant 4wd does make a difference to handling and braking especially in an emergency.
Oh and the reason for getting a Humvee rather than a Toyota or Nissan is that they are not fit for purpose any more, keep wearing out when used for what they are supposedly designed for, cost way more than they should, are unable to carry the necessary gear for an extended outback trip without extensive mods and going over GVM and being illegal to boot.
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Follow Up By: Selasticman - Tuesday, Feb 03, 2009 at 19:29

Tuesday, Feb 03, 2009 at 19:29
Sorry Humvee, Hard day at work.
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Reply By: get outmore - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 22:03

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 22:03
let me get this straight
you have troopy hubs that you cant fit onto your 80 because it needs longer stub axles so you want to try fitting troopy stub axles to your 80 to suit the troopy hubs just because you have them??


full time to parttime kits are available for 80s if you are so inclined
but fot the cash why?

just fitting manuel hubs to your 80 im pretty sure is the easy part but achieves nothing
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Follow Up By: Selasticman - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 22:17

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 22:17
Hey,

Iv'e been watching and using this forum for quite a few years now. When did it stop being a helpful site and being a slugfest.

All I was after was some iformation about stub axles.

Only useful information would be appreciated please. What you do with your vehicles is your business, and what I choose to do with mine is my business.

Thanks.
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 22:41

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 22:41
ease up im just suggesting if you want to fit FWH to your 80 the easiest way would be to fit 80 series FWH to it

but that wont make it a part time 4wd like it seems your trying to achieve

like i said there are full kits available to achieve this which would be your best bet
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Follow Up By: Selasticman - Tuesday, Feb 03, 2009 at 19:30

Tuesday, Feb 03, 2009 at 19:30
Sorry Get outmore, as I said to Humvee, Hard day at work.
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 22:11

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 22:11
They fit straight on and 2 circlips will hold the c/v axle ok. I ran this setup with a part time case from a std 80....dont do it if you have ABS, it wont work anymore....so u like getting out and locking in he hubs then??? what about loose gravel roads, where the loose stiuff used to pull you into the bush on a curve???
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Follow Up By: Selasticman - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 22:25

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 22:25
Hi Dozer,

Thanks for the info. I dont mind locking in hubs, Iv'e gotten use to it over the years.

No ABS, just brake Harder.

Cheers,

Dave


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Reply By: cruza25 - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 22:27

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 22:27
http://www.4wdsystems.com.au/html/part_time_4wd.htm


follow this link- they are in adelaide but ship anywhere

they do kits to do just what you want- have used them many times for landcruiser pars good prices and they know what there talking about

ask for tom if you ring
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Follow Up By: Selasticman - Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 22:37

Monday, Feb 02, 2009 at 22:37
Hi Cruza25,

Thanks mate, I forgot about them. Iv'e bought a couple of things off those guys in the past and they've been good to deal with.
I'll give them a try tomorrow.

Cheers,

Dave
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Reply By: Sea-Dog - Tuesday, Feb 03, 2009 at 10:44

Tuesday, Feb 03, 2009 at 10:44
The marks adapters etc will cost you about $400 ish and include the parts for your transfer case... being a 97 model you would have a viscous centre diff wouldn't you? Important info if you are doing the conversion.

I have also heard (all hearsay too as I have decided to keep my 80 as full time after doing all the pros and cons) that the locking hubs are not the best with these kits and it is best to use the ones off a standard 80 or similar as they are just a better unit.

Does your version of the 80 still have a button on the dash to lock the centre diff? Just wondering if they don't how you go about locking into 4wd.
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