New 4.2TD Turbo Cruiser Ute 5th gear ratio

Submitted: Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 23:22
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I had a drive of the above mentioned car a few days ago and felt sweeeeeet as a barley sugar...

On the highway, I changed up from 4th to 5th and bugger me..the revs increased, not decreased????

What's going on there???? any ideas.

Revs went from about 2000 and something in 4th then to over 3000rpm when into 5th and she started reving its head off.

Got me stuffed. Any one know what's going on?
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 23:39

Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 23:39
You went back to 3rd?
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Follow Up By: Andrew(WA) - Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 23:41

Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 23:41
I am a driving instructor/examiner.

I can asure you, I didn't go back to third. But that is exactly what it felt like!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 23:47

Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 23:47
I drove semis for 8 yrs, driver trainer, I still missed gears occasionally...

But thats all I can think of, have you been back to dealer?

has it happened more than once? All the time? or occasionally?
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Follow Up By: Andrew(WA) - Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 23:52

Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 23:52
I can understand missing a gear in a Semi, but not in the cruiser.

We tried several times and I said before, It felt like 3rd gear everytime. We fiddled with it a bit but I can definately say, if it was 3rd gear then it was where 5th should be.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 10:56

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 10:56
I'd be takin the car back.

Was the unit you test drove the same??

I'd be asking to drive another of the same model exactly as yours, to make sure its not 'just how they are' as the dealer will be bound to tell you.
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Follow Up By: Andrew(WA) - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 20:38

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 20:38
Truckster

The story is I was taking a guy for a driving test in the car. On the open road he failed to use 5th gear so I brought this to his attention. He explained that 5th revved to high and, as you would expect, I thought this guy can't drive and he was going into 3rd.
I told him to demonstrate and watched. Bugger me, the car reacted as the guy stated.
Blown away, I took over and the rest is as explained previous. Definately not right, and definately not 3rd.

Obviously we discussed taking car back. I guess the guy did but can't tell you the outcome. I might follow it up through work if I get the chance.

cheers
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Reply By: Nige - Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 23:43

Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 23:43
Excessive clutch slip??
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Follow Up By: Andrew(WA) - Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 23:48

Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 at 23:48
For sure or maybe Nige???

I am pretty dead set something has been put together wrong at the factory. She was only a few days old and the owner was as suprised as me.

This was his 1st cruiser ute so he thought maybe it had been set up that way for heavy loads/towing etc.

Don't think so??? very strange.
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Reply By: haze - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 08:41

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 08:41
Fifth in the 78 is a lower ratio than the 75, it was critisized by magazine road testers. But cetainly not lower than 4th.
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Reply By: andy - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 15:20

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 15:20
You went to 3RD Buddy, 3rd 3rd 3rd. As if 5th would be a higher revving gear than 4th. Derrrrrrr think about it you missed the shift. A newish vehicle would not have a clutch slip in 5th and not in all of the other gears. You missed the shift, stuffed it up. How many new cruisers have you driven in comparison??? It was 3rd face it.
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Follow Up By: michael - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 18:13

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 18:13
Andy, aren't you being a teensy little bit harsh on Andrew? He is after all an instructer/ examiner.
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Follow Up By: Andrew(WA) - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 20:31

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 20:31
Andy, please...mate

Do think I don't where 5th is???
Don't you think I might have tried it several times just in case I did miss a gear??? which I know I didn't..hence the question to the forum. Please.

I guess your about 20 years of age and think you know everything. GROW UP.

And as to how many cruisers' of this type i've driven in comparison???? None, not a one. That's one of the reasons I'm so perplexed over it!

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Reply By: wazza - Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 15:48

Friday, Aug 15, 2003 at 15:48
When I was 18, I dropped the 4 speed out of my Commodore to replace the clutch. When I put it back in, I accidentally reversed the shift linkages and put the 1st-2nd gate to the 3rd-4th linkage and vise versa. I soon realised pretty quick when I had to clutch like buggery to get the thing going, and it would do 100+ k's per hour in 2nd. Lucky I didn't try 3rd. Moral of my post. Hehe, there isn't any really. I was just young, dumb and ... sorry, I'll go back in my corner now.
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Reply By: Dunedigger - Sunday, Aug 17, 2003 at 15:45

Sunday, Aug 17, 2003 at 15:45
Well. . I have one , just 6 weeks old and 3rd gear does come before 4th in mine. Changing to 5th reduces ruves by about 300 RPM. Hardley worthwhile. Toyota could drom it down a bit more yet so the motor is not reving so hard on the free way !

I'd say you found 3rd somehow or the gears are 'arse' about if that is possable !

Dunedigger
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