CALLING ALL EXPLOROZ MEMBERS & VISITORS.

Submitted: Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 19:41
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I put this to David that through this site we "pass the hat around" for the victims of the latest fires.

David,if you are reading this thread we ask if we can use your postal address to donate so as you guys would be able to pass the donations on to the relevant charities who will no doubt organise to help these poor buggers out?

we all need to try to help out the ones who will be without their homes 2nite,cheers.
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Reply By: Isuzumu - Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 19:53

Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 19:53
Good idea Mark, they do have paypal (did not work for me the other day when trying to pay my membership) so if Dave can reroot thru there would be great. Good idea Mark.

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Follow Up By: Crackles - Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 20:43

Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 20:43
Paypal would take around 5% of any deposit so possibly would be better to make a tax deductable donation at any bank.
Dig deep.
Cheers Craig...................
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G Gulmarrad - Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 21:14

Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 21:14
CACKLES

i personally wouldnt use this facility,so i will send a cheque instead,cheers.
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ (wa) has - Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 21:23

Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 21:23
I have to agree with Mark because as individuals we can direct the funds to where we want them to go.
Red Cross know the job at hand, they take no commission from the funds.
I'm not sure David should be asked to, or be given the extra work involved with moving funds from various accounts to where ??

The thought is to be commended but ...

Just my own opinion :-))

Mainey . . .
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G Gulmarrad - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 19:08

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 19:08
Mainey

David is a big boy .......he'll tell me if he doesnt have the time,hence me asking the question to him,cheers.
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Reply By: Tim Owen - Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 20:50

Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 20:50
Unfortunately Gippsland has a lot of history and experience with emergencies, and as a result has a long standing and extremely well regarded emergency relief organisation. I'd suggest this is the best way to provide support to the many Gippslanders affected by these fires.

http://relieffund.org.au/

"The Gippsland Emergency Relief Fund is a registered charitable organization making all donations tax deductible. All donations are returned to the community and no costs are deducted.

The Fund provides relief and assistance to persons residing in the Gippsland Municipalities of Bass Coast, South Gippsland, Latrobe, Baw Baw, Wellington and East Gippsland who suffer injury, loss or damage from natural disasters.

Fire Appeal - 31st January 2009

The Gippsland Emergency Relief Fund has launched an appeal to aid fire stricken familles who received a devastating blow from this week’s fires across Gippsland.

The fund is currently urging Gippsland and Victorian communities and businesses to support those who have lost homes and belongings by making a much-needed donation."

Our house is covered in ash brought down by a few drops of rain - I was amazed at how thick the cloud of ash was, and we are at least 30km from the fire. I can't imagine what it must have been like for those directly in the path. My thoughts are with them.
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Follow Up By: Member - Scrubcat (VIC) - Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 22:59

Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 22:59
Good idea Tim but there are several severe fires with some loss of lives and huge damage other than Gippsland, Bendigo, Kilmore, Kinglake, Redesdale, Beechworth and Horsham just to name some, there are probably others .

IMO donations to the General Appeal which has been set up today would beneficial to victims of all the Victorian fires.
84 confirmed dead as I write this.

It`s a sad day for all of us.

Scrubby
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Reply By: Member - William H (WA) - Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 21:33

Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 21:33
Im in on this one, where is the Hat??????.


Cheers for now.....William H...Bunbury.. WA.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G Gulmarrad - Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 21:36

Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 21:36
WILLIAM H

just waiting for David to reply , have to get his permission,cheers.
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Reply By: Member - Warfer (VIC) - Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 21:46

Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 21:46
I heard the ANZ Bank have donated a million dollars and are excepting donations...Now lets see if all the other Major Banks follow suite !


Cheers
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Reply By: Matt Watson - Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 22:14

Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 22:14
Redcross have an appeal up too, that is where I've thrown my $$.

https://www.redcross.org.au/Donations/ppDonations.asp

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 08:08

Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 08:08
Matt

I think like you... leave it to the professionals ..ie Banks, Red Cross, etc.

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Reply By: Member - Julio C (VIC) - Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 22:31

Sunday, Feb 08, 2009 at 22:31
Lets do it..............
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Reply By: Member - Bucky, the "Mexican"- Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 04:35

Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 04:35
I'll be in that. !
Gotta feel for them

Cheers
Bucky
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Reply By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 09:00

Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 09:00
Mark,

Its a great sentiment, but I agree with those who suggest using existing agencies to donate to.

Perhaps the opportunity for a members gathering somewhere down the track if people think there is anything as a group that we could do to help in a practical way?

Cheers,

Matt.
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 09:10

Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 09:10
Agree with you Matt.

Lets give through the systems already set up.

If later on (a couple of weeks or couple of months?), members down that way hear of people being missed by the system, which will happen, that follow up assistance is where ExplorOZ members could help. Make it more pointed to individuals that the system can't cope with.
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Follow Up By: Matt Watson - Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 10:12

Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 10:12
Matt M,

Thats probably a better idea, give it a month or two, then find a park or town which is struggling due to the fires, mob in there, spend your $$, offer your time, etc.
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Reply By: The Landy - Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 09:16

Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 09:16
I saw this article and wonder whether it is easier for all, including David, if we make donations direct. After all the money will probably find its way to those that need it urgently much quicker if done directly.

However it is done though....let's all help as best we can.

Bushfire Appeal
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Follow Up By: The Landy - Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 09:37

Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 09:37
Westpac Bank.......


Opened 7 Victorian branches on Sunday to assist with providing relief funds to those impacted by the bushfires

The Westpac Group has donated $1m to the Victorian Bushfire Relief Appeal (announced on Sunday afternoon)

Further publicised the Westpac General Insurance Claims Hotline 1300 369 989 to urgently assist customers

Implemented our Disaster Relief Package

We have set-up an account to receive donations from employees, customers and the general public. The donations will go direct to the Victorian Bushfire Relief Appeal (see details below)

Donations account details

NAME: Victorian Bushfire Relief Appeal
BRANCH: Bendigo - 49 Mitchell Street
BSB: 033688
A/C NO. 379004
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Reply By: DIO - Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 12:46

Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 12:46
Why go to all the trouble of duplicating/replicating what has already been put in place to help the bushfire victims.

Victorian Bushfire Appeal Fund - 1800 811 700
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G Gulmarrad - Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 21:13

Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 21:13
WHY??????????????


cause we are aussies and we get off our asses and get things done...thats why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ (wa) has - Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 21:32

Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 21:32
As I read and understand it, DIO meant: why should we attempt to DUPLICATE or REPLICATE the agencies ALREADY in place, to do exactly as you have thought should be done !

Mainey . . .
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G Gulmarrad - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 13:22

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 13:22
MAINY

and to all others.................cant this DIO speak for him/herself????
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ (wa) has - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 15:38

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 15:38
Mark G Gulmarrad
You originally posted what amounts to a direct REQUEST to very busy business man, via an open forum on: Sunday, Feb 08, 2009
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Mark,
As to DIO speaking for himself, no-one has asked him any questions :-)

"MAINY" - naahhh it's Maîneÿ
been that since I waz 6 yrs old too !!

Mainey . . .



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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G Gulmarrad - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 18:07

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 18:07
no.1

i asked David if we could use his site for donations,i didnt tell him!!


no.2

i said cant Dio SPEAK for him/herself?

no one asked him/her anything!!
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ (wa) has - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 18:45

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 18:45
Mark
You actually posted the following 8 days ago:

""I put this to David that through this site *WE* 'pass the hat around' for the victims of the latest fires.

David,if you are reading this thread *WE* ask if *WE* can use your postal address to donate so as you guys would be able to pass the donations on to the relevant charities who will no doubt organise to help these poor buggers out?

just waiting for David to reply , have to get his permission,cheers.""

Yeah, you did 'ASK' him - didn't you !!

(2) DIO 'types' his replies
he does not "speak" at all ha ha

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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G Gulmarrad - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 19:03

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 19:03
what IS your problem?

yes i did ASK David!

do you have a problem with me asking the man for permission?


if it upsets you so much,dont bother to reply then........gees!!!



i'm starting to think that you are Dio's keeper.
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ (wa) has - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 19:36

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 19:36
Mark, being in business myself, I'm very aware of the time constraints on busy business people!!

I personally would have picked up the telephone and *TALKED* ( yes, done some verbalising ) with David, it would have taken just a few minutes.

With that one phone call I would have an answer, the same answer your still waiting 8 days for, and the whole thing would NOW be set-up, or maybe even forgotten about.

But you've chosen to do it your way, it's your choice.

Now you have a gr8 week....

Mainey . . .
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G Gulmarrad - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 19:46

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 19:46
tool
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 20:39

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 20:39
Mark,

EO is not a registered charity. There are complications in becoming one that would seem a waste of time when there are already better organised charities out there.

Good gesture on your part in suggesting it, but asking David to explore other avenues (non profitable) is a big ask.

I would suggest he has enough to do without re-creating something that already exists.

Cheers,

Jim.

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Reply By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 19:54

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 19:54
Mark and others,

Whilst the idea is good there is no need for ExplorOz to collect these funds and pass money around. There are various overheads and fees on Paypal or credit cards etc and we do not want to be collecting cheques for mailing - this just does not make sense.

Please use one of the many already organised avenues to contribute such as Commonwealth bank, Red Cross etc.

David
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G Gulmarrad - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 21:39

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 21:39
ok then..........dont say i didnt try to help.
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 22:14

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 22:14
Mark,

Your "heroic" effort was 2 minutes of typing and trying to unload the responsibility of the hard work onto someone else.

You'll no doubt call me a "tool" again, I'll live happily with that.

My kindest Regards,

Jim.

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