Does anyone Know What this Is?

Submitted: Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 21:53
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Hi All,
I have been doing some weekend homework for my trip this year. On the topo maps, there is Prohibited Area between Laverton and Cosmo Newberry. Being in the heart of Aboriginal Land, I thought that it must be some special Aboriginal Sacred Site or similar. Curiosity got the better of me, so I check this site out with Google Earth. This is no Aboriginal Site, that's for sure. In the bottom left hand corner, it looks like a bunker of some sort?

Does anyone out there have any idea what the importance of this site is.

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Reply By: greybeard - Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 22:05

Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 22:05
as a guess, jindalee over the horizon radar
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Follow Up By: greybeard - Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 22:07

Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 22:07
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jindalee_over-the-horizon_radar

the Western Australian transmitter at Leonora,[10] with 180 degree coverage (28°19'03?S 122°50'36?E? / ?-28.317378, 122.843456), and
the Western Australian receiver at Laverton, with 180 degree coverage (28°19'36?S 122°00'19?E? / ?-28.326747, 122.005234).
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 22:08

Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 22:08
Hi Greybeard,
I was always led to believe that those sites where further north and nearer the WA coast.

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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 22:11

Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 22:11
Hi Greybeard
Sorry about my reply. I do not think that they would let us in for a look see.

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Follow Up By: greybeard - Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 22:14

Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 22:14
i think the whole point of the technology was it's ability to see extremely long distances, hence the name.
from a military point of view it would be a lot easier to defend such an installation if it was a long way from the coastline that you are trying to protect.
it's also a lot to do with the frequency of the radar signals. the wikipedia link explains a bit more about it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 22:18

Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 22:18
Hi Greybeard
Thanks for that.That is what I love about this great site, an answer is always at hand from its great viewers

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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 22:57

Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 22:57
Mmmm...but is there only one Jindalee????
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Follow Up By: Bearly - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 06:57

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 06:57
There are several sites like this, there are two just north of Alice Springs (one about 20 klm and the other about 200 klm)

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Follow Up By: Rosco - Qld - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 14:11

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 14:11
And one just west of Stonehenge.
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Reply By: greybeard - Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 22:18

Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 22:18
probably not much to see on the ground, you've allready google earthed it :)

maybe if you sneaked up on them and got arrested they would take you to the bunker and then you'd get to see what's inside ;)
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 22:21

Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 22:21
Hi Greybeard,
I do not want to extend my away from home any longer and miss out on my true intended destinations..

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Follow Up By: Member - Chris & Debbie (QLD) - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 01:18

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 01:18
Greybeard, Stephen
I used to service the generators at the Harts Range base, probably 20 years ago now and there is not much to see. Just large antenna arrays which you can see in your google earth shots and a building jammed with computers, so you are not missing much by not going in.
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 23:15

Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 23:15
Jindalee OHR is very interesting.

It can see aircraft taking off at Singapore and icebergs in the North Atlantic.

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Follow Up By: nickoff - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 08:31

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 08:31
I believe it can also "see" stealth aircraft in flight. That one upset the yanks.

Used to hear it on the old 27Mhz CB band back in the early days.
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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 23:58

Sunday, Feb 15, 2009 at 23:58
quite a good read here From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 01:06

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 01:06
Link broke Richard??
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 01:21

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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 01:23

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 01:23
I need to learn how to copy and paste.. :-)

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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:24

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:24
The link wasn't broken, ASIO was logging details of everyone who clicked on it.

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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 07:53

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 07:53
Hi All
Thanks to everyone who replied about this strange site in the deserts of WA. I now know to keep well clear of this area. I would not have expected any such site to be located there.

Cheers and Thanks to All

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Reply By: get outmore - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 08:40

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 08:40
theres at least one nuclear waste dump in WA NW of Coolgardie

it is marked on maps such as tailings dam and mt walton minesite

so maybe there is another?
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Reply By: Member - Richard H (NSW) - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 09:17

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 09:17
When the Poms were using the Woomera Rocket Range big time, like in the 50's & early 60's, they were going to test an intercontinental missile called 'Blue Steak'. Plus a few others. The U.K.Govt. pulled the plug on these projects and bailed out.

If you go to Lake Hart on the Stuart Hwy. you can see one of the launch pads on the edge of the lake.

The idea was for these missiles to be launched at Woomera and splash down in the Indian Ocean off the N.W. West Aust.. Coast.

In order to track these missiles they built a number of facilities along the flight path. These were staffed by techo's. & were probably dug in so as to keep the instruments & electronics at a constant, cool temperature.

Len Beadel's roads were part of the scheme.

It is possible that the facility in the photo may be one of those. This information was in a book put out about the history of Woomera. It was at the time, a pretty big deal, but as 'Reds Under the Beds' was the catch cry very little information was ever released to the general public.

It looks like it is pretty well maintained though, and it appears to be fenced. Other than what I have said, it's got me snookered.

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:32

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:32
"In the 50's & early 60's, they were going to test an intercontinental missile called 'Blue Steak'."

I thought the missile system was called "Blue Streak"?? :-))
This system was developed and multiple launches and tests of this system did occur at Woomera.
The left over bits are still on display at the Woomera Museum.

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Follow Up By: Member - Richard H (NSW) - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:42

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:42
I know it was named thus because of the colour of the exhaust flame/s.

Didn't think this one flew, they only got to the stage where the engines were tested. The bits at the museum, I thought, were other projects. Maybe I'm wrong.

I'm going to the library this arvo. I'll get the book out and check.

Get back to you John.

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:47

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:47
No it flew alright Dick, bits are still in the Simpson and across other areas of the country.

Have a look at the link I provided in my previous post for more info on the program.

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Follow Up By: Member - Richard H (NSW) - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 17:42

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 17:42
I was right off the target, I'm much too far to the north.

Check out the map.Image Could Not Be Found.

I don't think it has anything to do with Pine Gap, because you would see the camp & the rubbish tip of Rentademmo Pty. Ltd.

So, I don't know. I'll wait with interest.

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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 20:31

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 20:31
Some pic's of the launch pads you are talking about, this is no 1 that was used, and they built no 2 but was never used.
We crawled over this one a few years ago, they are massive structures.Image Could Not Be Found
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 20:32

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 20:32
A few more shots.
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 20:52

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 20:52
Woop's wrong button LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 20:56

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 20:56
Having trouble stacking more than one picture per post?
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 20:59

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 20:59
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 21:04

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 21:04
Last one, sick of having to load each pic on seperate posts
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Follow Up By: Member - Richard H (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 17, 2009 at 08:07

Tuesday, Feb 17, 2009 at 08:07
I am aware that this can be seen from the highway.

Can you get to it from the Lake Hart Rest Area?

And... what's the condition of the access road?

But gee, didn't they expend some dough on that place.

Dick
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 17, 2009 at 20:47

Tuesday, Feb 17, 2009 at 20:47
Richard
You cant get to them as they are on the woomera restricted site.
We have had guided tours out there a couple of times by knowing someone in woomera management.
Yes they spent millions out there, much of the infrastructure is gone.

Cheers Pesty
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Reply By: Mike - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 09:21

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 09:21
Hi All.

I could tell you what it really is, but then I'd have to kill you!!!


Just joking.

Happy trails, Mike.
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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 18:12

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 18:12
Doesn't it seem a bit odd that the antenna array is pointed straight at Beijing?

I reckon the workers at this particular operation have worked out a way to order Chinese take away directly from the land of Peking Duck.

Bob
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Reply By: Mandrake - Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 19:00

Monday, Feb 16, 2009 at 19:00
Hate to put a damper on this but your first notion is correct -
It is a sacred aboriginal site ..

This is one of several Aboriginal Spacecraft landing pads ..
Easily recpgnised by the Boomerang shape - which has recently been
built into the US Stealth Bomber !!

Please keep this under wraps OK ...

Rgds

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