Advice needed Please {Gas bottle inside C/T}

No.

Dangerous and potentially illegal .
Gas bottles should not be carried in an enclosed unvented area .
Gas bottles should be in a separate enclosed compartment vented to the outside from the lowest part of the compartment.
The gas is heavier than air and if for any reason your bottle leaks the gas with go to the floor and if it cannot escape out will be waiting around to give you a big bang.
I hope you dont smoke.
I think others will tell you the same thing.
Ian

G'day Greendog,

I don't see a huge problem doing this. I know with the bigger cylinders they say not to carry them in the back of a car but I also store my 2kg bottle (used for the shower) in the camper. I just make sure its not going to bang around and there is certainly nothing in the camper that would spark and create an explosion. I think you should be fine.

Cheers.

Greendog, what you have done there, the bottle will be as snug in a rug. But they do say that bottles should be in the open.

cheers,

Lance

Gday Green Dog
I spose after a hard night with the misses,and the obligatory cigy, the inevitable gas leak, that should give you and your darling a bit of a lift..
Murray

Yo dog, s'up? A wise'ish, old'ish man once said on here "we worry too much about things like this".

Found this on the energy.sa.gov.au website. Note paragraphs 4 & 4.

All cylinders sold in Australia must meet strict specifications. LPG cylinders are certified for ten years. When they are out of date they need to be recertified or replaced. It is illegal to fill a "time expired" LPG cylinder.

A dew line may appear around the cylinder when an appliance is operating, indicating the level of liquid inside. This is not uncommon or dangerous. An ice build-up around the cylinder may occur in exceptional circumstances and is indicating the gas demand is exceeding the supply available, in which case, the cylinder will need to be refilled or a larger cylinder used.

Always transport, store and use portable LPG cylinders in an upright position. (Forklift and autogas cylinders are the exception to this rule.)

Keep cylinders secure during transport, and don't carry them in the passenger compartment. Use a sealing plug in the cylinder valve when the appliance is not connected.

Cylinders kept in a car during summer could overheat and exceed their maximum service temperature, so avoid doing this - it could cause the safety valve to operate, filling the car with LPG vapour. If you need to transport a portable LPG cylinder in a vehicle during hot weather keep it upright and wrap it in a wet towel to keep it cool.

Never tamper with the safety valve, cylinder fittings, or use undue force on the cylinder valve.

Always store cylinders upright, outdoors and in a well ventilated area away from excess heat and possible sources of ignition.

If the cylinder has been damaged by fire or heat, or has suffered physical damage, it should be inspected at an authorised test station before refilling. It should also be inspected if it is rusty (especially underneath).

Shut off the cylinder valve before disconnecting. When replacing a portable cylinder, ensure the appliance is turned off.

When replacing one of a pair of cylinders on a permanent installation, LPG appliances may need to be turned off, unless an automatic changeover valve is fitted.

Fly.

There is risk in anything we do, stuff up and bang.

Shut the valve and the bang goes away.

Do it easy

I did an almost identical thing last year, I did 12000 km then and 14000km the year before, all this without incident it was safe as.

Cheers Steve.

This is how the bottle is stored in my camper. It is done like this from the factory by a MAJOR well respected camper supplier.

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This pic is not actually my camper but mine is the same type. The only difference is that mine has 2 bottles - 1 at each end of the storage lockers.

The lockers do have vent holes in the bottom however. Given that Greendog is putting these in the trailer, I really don't think there is a great risk of blowing everything up. Maybe just provide some type of ventilation (of which there is normally heaps in these types of trailers.

Just my 02.

Cheers,

Mark

Check out the requirements for gas installations as summarised here. http://www.cmca.net.au/pages/members/technical_articles/index.php?article_id=110

Some years back I saw a campertrailer after it had exploded. Had a gascylinder inside. The LPG slowly leaked and because its heavier than air, just collected (like it would in your plastic container). The guy applied the brakes and that was enough to make it all go bang.

Seen similar happen to the rear end of a 60series, but that guy was silly enough to be running a 3-way fridge off gas in the back while camped.

Thanks guys for all your input i thought i might have been going the un safe way after all it is a gas bottle and it can go Bang,i'll have to have a talk to some one at the camping show to see if they can do some adjustments as in putting in a gas line to the bottle as were it is soposed to be{e.g pic} and tie down points included just hope it does'nt cost alot,again thanks guys.cheer's GREENDOGImage Could Not Be Found

When I was a kid working for radio station I was sent out to cover a car fire story. I never got close to the car, but I'll never forget the anguish of the man whose 2 little sons died in the inferno in the back seat of his 2 door car. An LPG bottle in the boot had exploded.

NEVER keep any gas bottle in an unventilated space.

LPG gas pools at the lowest space, just like water, so you can't always smell it and you cerainly can't see it. You don't need to be a smoker to ignite it, the poor bugger above was driving, a spark in the boot did it ..could have been metal-on-metal, or electrics ..who knows?
It may never happen, but ...

Hi, apart from that , what is the go with the pressure cans of gas for the small portable cookers,
we never carry the cans in the unit, but packed seperatley ( wrapped in bubble wrap or rag)iand with the caps on, in the car,
Have been doing this for years and a lot of rough K's.
Just after opinions.
Cheers Des.
ps. for years have carried a 1.5kg/ 2 kg bottle in the car.???

If you have an accident your insurance wouldn't pay

Gday,
Youve heard all the horror storries....probably enough to make you rethink?
But after saying that....I would carry it there as a temperary measure. Just make sure sure the valve is off tight and carry a little squirty bottle with detergent and water in it and leak test it before you put it away. Also stick your nose in the trailer when you get where your going and have a sniff.

Cheers