Keeping the weight down?

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For crying out LOUD, Govts. spend billions of dollars trying to provide us with safer roads, realistic ADR and crash test compliance and you (YOU) say don't worry if you exceed the manufacturers recommended GVM. Guess it doesn't matter if the brakes, suspension, chassis etc don't cope. What is a safe 'overload' (in your humble, uninformed, arrogant opinion) 50kg 200kg 500kg whre does it end !!! I guess it's all too bad and just rotten luck if someone who took your advise was (WAS) involved in a collision (note I didn't say accident) and innocent parties suffer injuries or worse still death. Wouldn't want that on my consience thank you. Sorry mate, any credibility you might have had has just been 'shot down'.

Ah! Mr Plod shows up!

I do not seek credibility.

I do not advise anything to anyone.

I don't care what you think.

I have a clear consience!

I am a social commentator giving my opinion on a variety of subjects. People who may take what I say as advice, have to be responsible for their own actions.

You, DIO, whoever you may be, apply guerilla tactics to this forum. You only comment once and have never ever continued with a discussion within a thread. That is probably why no one takes much notice of you. But I feel compelled to wind you up.

I would like to ask you just where these Safer Roads are? Certainly not in at least 90% of this country.

Manufacturers 'Recommend'. Governments legislate. Most times the vehicle is overloaded it soon comes back to GVM or below as fuel load and other consumables are used. And to this I say don't worry. It's no use stressing over it.

And here my non-advice to you and anyone else who cares to read this, ends.................

Gday,
Yeah..Im with you Willem...I wouldnt have a clue what my vehicles weigh?
There are some people around who have enough sense to load there car to what they consider a safe limit (taking the road/track conditions your suspension and driving style into consideration)and drive it accordingly.
That DIO tosser is one of those fools who would put all the weight up on the roof because the book says you can, and then complain when he rolls it going around a corner because there wasnt a sign telling him what speed he was allowed to do!!!!
He obviously cant think for himself!!!

DIO...I know you wont reply, cause you never do, You just throw in the "law according to DIO" a heap of abuse and then climb back into your hole..BUT...
If you do read this...I think,These laws and recomendations have been made to try and iDIOt proof the world.....to try and take the thought out of making decisions....to think for fools who cant think for them self!! A bit like yourself maybe?
If you know the capability of you vehicle and that it is all in good condition. If you arent going to drive at half the speed your vehicle was designed to do carrying a particular weight and if your going to spend 99% of your trip out in the middle of know where, where you couldnt hurt anyone but your self, what would be wrong throwing in an extra bit of weight?
Maybe everyone in your little world cant think for themselves but if you stayed out of your hole for long enough, you might find that most of the people in this country arent as stupid as you would like to think!!!!

Aaahhh ....thats better/

Cheers

Well said Dio

And don't be so arrogant and derogatory calling people "Mr Plod" Willem... Perhaps we should call you Mr GOB

Why do people get personal and start name calling just because someones says something that YOU do not agree with.

Keep it calm Willem and Hairy... gees guys, grow up !!!!


And Willem...I said "perhaps" we should call you Mr. Gob.

"Why do people get personal and start name calling"
Why???
Comments like-
" (in your humble, uninformed, arrogant opinion) "
and
"any credibility you might have had has just been 'shot down'."

Possibly comments like that from someone who has never had the balls to sensibly debate ANY of their pesonal attacks they have EVER made?, right or wrong....eventually people get annoyed??
Sorry, but I reckon if you going to give it out, expect to get a bit back.

DIO has never debated the courage of his convictions, Every time this person has posted, It has been a one off in your face comment then NOTHING else, Therefore no one holds any of his comments with any credibility.

Until this person debates his comments with any conviction, be it right or wrong, he will be held with contempt.

Cheers Steve.

But Steve, why then do you even bother replying to the message...leave it be and then he may get the message.

There is no need going tit for tat. That is childish

Dunco when you say "why do you", I assume you mean the broader community, as I haven't responded to this person in some time.

I guess this person rubs some people up the wrong way, most of his/her comments are personal attacks, such as his/her response to Willem's post above.

I guess that because of his/her long established record of personal hit and run verbal attacks, those that respond to him/her now just try to provoke a debate and make him/her justify his/her comments.

Just my observations.

Cheers Steve.

Hey Dunco

Whats wrong with getting personal? Hm?

If the moderators don't like it then whoosh!...its gone.

There are lots of ideas floating around in the world. Some say do this and some say do that and some just have to get their ire up about things over nothing. Like you, Dunco,...You are winding yourself up like a clockwork mouse

The fella I call Mr Plod is a Policeman in real life. He will always come and give the law abiding do-gooder, yum yum, polly wants a cracker speech about how we should live. In the four or so years that he has fequented this site he has seldom made sense. He goes out on a limb to annoy people. So, the way I see it.......An eye for an eye.

I am in my second childhood and excel at being childish. So many people on this forum tell me that. I an pretty much going to continue along that vein. I wrote a fictional story once and posted it here on the forum and one fella got so upset that he asked that I be removed from the forum for good for telling lies. He has since calmed down. Maybe you will too.

Ta Ta

Why do you say I am wound up...because I called your reply childish?
Or because I told you to grow up ?

Wow, I must be wound right up to write those comments !!

hahahaha.

And I still think it is derogatory to call a policeman "Mr Plod". My opinion...not everyone's. .....99% of cops to a wonderful job...look at what they are doing in Victoria...are they Mr. Plods ?

Gee...maybe I better not write anymore as I might wind myself up even further and spring off through the roof !!!

Dunco

I call someone Mr Plod

You call me childish

What's the difference?

We are both tarred with the same brush

>look at what they are doing in Victoria< What has that got to do with the scheme of things?

Some of you blokes are real girls, you know!

Go and have a shower and cool down....lol

I didn't call you childish...I said your replies were childish.

You call them Mr. Plod....and I say they don't deserve that...maybe you've had a bad time with the Law and have issues with them....is that the case ? Are you a criminal with issues with the Law and need to vent your anger by calling them names ? There are people that can help you with that so you can release your anger without name calling or being abusive. I will google them if you like.

Now, you better have a cold shower. I am going to sleep now that I am so relaxed.

G'nite Willem

Hahahahahahahahaha..yer a card. Me angry?...LOL

I see you change the format of the discussion to suit your own agenda.

Sleep tight old fella

Mainey,

despite the bleatings of the anti trailer lobby it is also kinder to the tracks. Spreading the weight over six wheels avoids the massive overloading of the rear wheels. It is the weight carried by each wheel that chomps up tracks.

Bob

Brian. When you load yourself up for the extended around Australia trip, if you do that type of thing. Go down to the weigh bridge that WILL not lie. I posted last year about this, I am willing to bet that overloaded you will be. I have a single cab ute and I go over. Cheers Tony.

Craig. I agree it is near impossible to keep your car loaded correctly. I tried but after doing the weigh bridge, I am a 200kg over when I start out fully loaded. As you say I could save a few kilos here and there but in the end you have to take out gear if you do not want to tow a trailer. There is a few heated comments above that is not worth getting involved in, but even though I go overloaded I can not agree with the above statements. For instance my car can safely speed in some situations, so overloading and driving to compensate is no different it is not legal. At the moment we get away with it as manufactures make toys and not real 4 x 4s so that can carry some realistic weight. cHEERS tONY

It's interesting how over time we collect more & more bits & pieces that we think we "Must Have" when in fact so much of it is unnecesary. I crossed the Simpson with a bloke who'd done it 26 times & was amazed at how little gear he had. No bull bar, no driving lights, no fancy storage system & a piece of bent mesh to cook on. The car, a TD Landcruiser tray would have been lucky to be carrying 600kg (Inlcuding the passegers) so not only did he get over the dunes the easiest but had the best fuel consumption as well.
Although small savings can be made with each individual item you carry it's the protection & storage gear that weighs the most. Between the bull bar, rear bar, side rails, winch & storage system there is over 300 kg & that is where the biggest weight savings can be made.
As far as going overloaded that's often what needs to do be done to take the family outback & it's just a matter of setting up the vehicle to carry that weight safely (If not legally) & drive according to the conditions.
Cheers Craig............

Is that advice or just a comment?.....LOL

Hahahahahahaha take it whichever way suits. Ya bloody stirrer :)))

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