Car ramps! I mean the real thing, or a pit?
Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 20:38
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Member - Axle
As you get older and obvisouly fatter!, rolling under a vehicle is no longer an easy thing to do..lol. as far as servicing goes.
A set of ramps, if you have the room is not hard to build, have helped out a few times,I mean something thats high enough to walk from one end of the car to the other underneath. Or a pit , if you have the space , just dig a trench the appropiate depth retain the sides concrete base, no worrys. Now the thing is i have neither!!!!, So i'm starting tomorrow one ramp comming up!..lol.
Reply By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:09
Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:09
Axle, tell me about it mate.
Not proud of it in any way but, a tailors tape doesnt meet around my girth.....hehehe.
The pain and strength needed to drop to my knees and get back up again is huge. Even with a 2'' lift I can only get my head under. My chest jambs on the side step.
At the moment I use a roll-away jack, axle stands and a badly bent floor trolley, shoulders and arse scaping the ground each side.....lol.
It does for general servicing [oil changes, greasing, brakes, bearings, universals etc]
Had a pit before and believe me they are a pain in the arse, and in some cases very dangerous. Guess thats why most service centers seem to use post type lifters.
Guys down the road from me built a pivoting ramp [ the vehicle is driven up the ramp until the weight transfer causes the ramp to
rock to the upright position], this works ok except you need a lot of length and its only about 4 feet off the ground.
Im going to build a set of normal heavy duty wheel ramps about 400-500mm high, use axle stands at the other end, should be high and comfy enough to roll under and have a good sleep...lol.
Looking at getting light truck tyres for the floor trolley though.
Cheers......Lionel.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:28
Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:28
HAhahahaha!.. Lionel don't want to be the bearer of bad news here mate!, but 500mm is no where enough clearance for the future mate!. Things get worse so i'm told..lol.
Anyway !, your right get underneath and have a snooze!!, all the probs will disappear!..hahaha.
Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: Member - Matt H (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:38
Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:38
Axle,
I hand dug a pit at my first house - wonderful thing it was too. BUT, these days many local councils have regs regarding pits, and many don't like them at all.
This is because of the safety concerns with them. Apart from the possibility of filling up with H2O, there is a
hazard with noxious fumes and vapours. Of the most concern is fuel vapour.
Being heavier than air, these fumes will settle at the bottom of a pit and unless the pit is ventilated (read: an exhaust fan and flue to the outside world), they could be an explosion risk.
Imagine that you're in the shed doing a bit of welding (even on the car which is currently over the pit), and sparks etc drop into the pit ------- KA-BOOM! Game Over!
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mine, when I again have my own shed (I'm currently in rented place), I'll put in a 2 post hoist, which aren't all that expensive and I wont have to climb up and down ladders in the pit either!
Cheers, Matt H
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:01
Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:01
Know what your saying Matt, but will be constructing a ramp all open, and walk in from one end! should not encounter any of you mentioned problems.
Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt H (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:44
Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:44
Indeed Axle!
No worries, hopefully others might find the info useful too!
An old family friend had a free standing one made out of old Jarrah railway sleepers about 6 foot high and withstood many years including floods etc. In fact, they used to "park" their good vehicles on it when a flood loomed.
Never fell down, but as a kid I wasn't game to go near the thing!
Matt
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Reply By: GerryP - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 23:44
Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 23:44
Been wondering he same thing myself. In the process of building a fairly large shed at the moment and intend to put in a pit. Had one at my dad's place when I was younger and it was great.
Would prefer a hoist, but even with a 3 metre high shed, there's not enough room above, especially for a lifted 4by with roof rack.
Will be making sure the water doesn't get in - lots of plastic and external drainage.
While I'm aware of the safety risks, I wouldn't park a car over it permanently (mine's a diesel anyway, so not as bad) to avoid fume buildup. I reckon, like everything, if you're sensible then shouldn't be a problem. Certainly no hassle at the ol' mans and it's been there 45 years.
Cheers
Gerry
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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Wednesday, Feb 25, 2009 at 18:12
Wednesday, Feb 25, 2009 at 18:12
I've had a pit in the garage for the last 21 years, missus reckons that's why we bought the house!
Seriously though it has been a godsend over the years, made it really easy to do servicing on heaps of different vehicles.
Water is a problem as even though we live on the side of a gentle
hill the water table rises when it rains and the pit sometimes fills to at least halfway as there is a sump in one end with a natural rock bottom.
Usually drains away just as quickly or I turn a little Rule bilge pump on which empties it pretty quickly.
As we are intending to move I'm putting a shed up at the new place and have decided on a hoist instead of a pit.
If you are doing a long job the knees give out after a day or two if on the wrong side of 50 from climbing up and down the ladder, a hoist also has the ability to lift the entire vehicle off the floor so makes it much easier to rotate tyres, work on brakes etc at anice height without bending over or kneeling on the floor.
A pit is also a right PITA when doing a transmission/transfer R & R on a 4wd as the bloody thing is too high to slide out sideways between chassis and the floor.
My shed will be 3m walls which if you put a steeper pitch on the roof with 9m depth gives enough height to lift the vehicle high enough for me at 5' 4" on a hoist.
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