Car ramps! I mean the real thing, or a pit?

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As you get older and obvisouly fatter!, rolling under a vehicle is no longer an easy thing to do..lol. as far as servicing goes.

A set of ramps, if you have the room is not hard to build, have helped out a few times,I mean something thats high enough to walk from one end of the car to the other underneath. Or a pit , if you have the space , just dig a trench the appropiate depth retain the sides concrete base, no worrys. Now the thing is i have neither!!!!, So i'm starting tomorrow one ramp comming up!..lol.
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Reply By: Member - Rob S (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 20:51

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 20:51
The only problem with a Pit is if you are too Fat!! the pit will
have be extra wide so you can turn around in it,
and then you won't have enough width in the wheel base to cover it unless you own a Hummer LOL.

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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 20:56

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 20:56
LOL!. Rob could get to that stage; will have to get a wriggle on!! LOL.


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Reply By: Lex M (Brisbane) - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 20:57

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 20:57
You obviously need a bigger lift kit.

The problem with a pit is they get full of water.


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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:02

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:02
Only if the drainage is ignored....LOL.


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Reply By: Member - Footloose - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:00

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:00
Pit can fill with water if not under cover !
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Reply By: Saharaman (aka Geepeem) - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:02

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:02
A pit would be good if you have other low vehicles to service as well. My daughters Mazda 6 with 225.Z40x18 tyres must be about 150mm from the ground. Impossible to get it to drive up standard steel ramps- have to mess about with long wooden planks half way up ramp to ground so front spoiler does not hit ramp. A pit would be great or if you had a slope on your block , a couple of sleepers coming straint out from slope would be fairly easy to erect.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:11

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:11
You are a clever man~lol!!..... The ramp will be built the same way, just using a heavy cross member at the front annd 200ml D posts at the front , planted the same distance in the ground as they are out . just excavate to give the right clearance under neath.


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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:13

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:13
Hey !! Thats some bullbar on your LC, Michael
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Follow Up By: Saharaman (aka Geepeem) - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:43

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:43
Yep its a bit of a head turner at times.
Made by Boomer Bullbars in Toowoomba out of 75mm alloy.
Pretty popular on the Downs area on utes in particular - especially at the B&S balls etc.
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Follow Up By: Saharaman (aka Geepeem) - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:53

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:53
They have even got a web page I have just discovered.

http://www.bnsgear.com.au/phpnuke/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=8

I have no association with them ...... just use their bullbar.
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Follow Up By: Member - Fred B (NT) - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 23:40

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 23:40
They would have had to order in another road-train of steel after making that one! Does it pass the test for max weight allowed for a single axle? :)
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Follow Up By: Saharaman (aka Geepeem) - Wednesday, Feb 25, 2009 at 07:06

Wednesday, Feb 25, 2009 at 07:06
Fred, its only alloy (aluminium). Weight would not be as much as a steel one with a winch. I do not have a winch on this one. This is my blacktop tourer only.
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Follow Up By: Member - Fred B (NT) - Wednesday, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:10

Wednesday, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:10
Sorry mate... my comment was "tounge in cheek... " hence the :) smile at the end!
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Reply By: toyotabits.com - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:07

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:07
G'day Axle, the best thing to get is the tilt ramps that car yards have for display, adjustable track, angle or horizontal, & when you are not using them - against the wall one on top of the other & always re saleable! regards, aussiedingo
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Reply By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:09

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:09
Axle, tell me about it mate.

Not proud of it in any way but, a tailors tape doesnt meet around my girth.....hehehe.
The pain and strength needed to drop to my knees and get back up again is huge. Even with a 2'' lift I can only get my head under. My chest jambs on the side step.

At the moment I use a roll-away jack, axle stands and a badly bent floor trolley, shoulders and arse scaping the ground each side.....lol.

It does for general servicing [oil changes, greasing, brakes, bearings, universals etc]

Had a pit before and believe me they are a pain in the arse, and in some cases very dangerous. Guess thats why most service centers seem to use post type lifters.

Guys down the road from me built a pivoting ramp [ the vehicle is driven up the ramp until the weight transfer causes the ramp to rock to the upright position], this works ok except you need a lot of length and its only about 4 feet off the ground.

Im going to build a set of normal heavy duty wheel ramps about 400-500mm high, use axle stands at the other end, should be high and comfy enough to roll under and have a good sleep...lol.

Looking at getting light truck tyres for the floor trolley though.


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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:28

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:28
HAhahahaha!.. Lionel don't want to be the bearer of bad news here mate!, but 500mm is no where enough clearance for the future mate!. Things get worse so i'm told..lol.

Anyway !, your right get underneath and have a snooze!!, all the probs will disappear!..hahaha.


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Reply By: Willem - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:37

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:37
I have an old persian rug I lie on. Its quite comfy, you know.

Have ramps too but seldom use them. Still skinny enough to fit under the GQ. The 130 is another 200mm higher than it so you must be really putting in on...hahahahahaha




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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:50

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:50
Yeah, Yeah , Yeah!!!. .. Bet!! that persian rug been comfy!!!.


Mate the new ramp will be to cope with the "TOJO" and all its chit; The landy might see it occasionally ....lol.



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Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:38

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:38
Gday,
I had decided to put a pit in my shed when I started building it, until the concreter ( a Mate) convinced me not to.
I reckons he spends more time filling the bloody things in than he does making them!
I decided it was better to do a couple more hours at work or do something that pays more and get someone else to do the crap jobs or build the shed a bit higher and buy a hoist.....I went the ...get someone else to do it and get a better paying job. LOL

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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:05

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:05
Just maybe your the smart one!!...LOL.


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Reply By: Member - Matt H (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:38

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:38
Axle,
I hand dug a pit at my first house - wonderful thing it was too. BUT, these days many local councils have regs regarding pits, and many don't like them at all.

This is because of the safety concerns with them. Apart from the possibility of filling up with H2O, there is a hazard with noxious fumes and vapours. Of the most concern is fuel vapour.

Being heavier than air, these fumes will settle at the bottom of a pit and unless the pit is ventilated (read: an exhaust fan and flue to the outside world), they could be an explosion risk.

Imagine that you're in the shed doing a bit of welding (even on the car which is currently over the pit), and sparks etc drop into the pit ------- KA-BOOM! Game Over!

For mine, when I again have my own shed (I'm currently in rented place), I'll put in a 2 post hoist, which aren't all that expensive and I wont have to climb up and down ladders in the pit either!

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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:01

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:01
Know what your saying Matt, but will be constructing a ramp all open, and walk in from one end! should not encounter any of you mentioned problems.


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Follow Up By: Member - Matt H (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:44

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:44
Indeed Axle!

No worries, hopefully others might find the info useful too!

An old family friend had a free standing one made out of old Jarrah railway sleepers about 6 foot high and withstood many years including floods etc. In fact, they used to "park" their good vehicles on it when a flood loomed.

Never fell down, but as a kid I wasn't game to go near the thing!

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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:51

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 21:51
Axle

You ought to try one of those bags that inflate off the exhaust.

Just make sure your clothes are a different colour to the bag so passers by can tell you apart.

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Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:02

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:02
Hi Axle,
When I was growing up there was a pit in the garage at mum and dad's place.

Bloody hell I miss the convenience of it now days.

There is some Yuppie mansion on the block now days that is neither use nor ornament!

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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:11

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:11
Hi Geoff, Simple practical things have just disappeared, I;m next!! according to the missus...lol.


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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:16

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:16
Axle,

So very true mate.

My brother and I can have a simple chat about rebuilding the gearbox out of an old Fergy with nothing more than a pocket knife and a bent wing nut for tools.

Most people now days need an hour with Google to work out what a pocket knife is without ever finding a Fergy.

They think Fergy was once married to one of Queen Lizzies sons!

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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:26

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:26
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!


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Reply By: troopyman - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:11

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:11
You can buy a set of those cantalievered galvanised display ramps that car yards have but they are a couple of grand per pair .
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:14

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:14
EH!!??...... WHAT???.




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Reply By: HGMonaro - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:12

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:12
my Uncle had a nifty idea... their drive way was a culvert across a good sized drain that rarely had water in it. He plonked down a big timber beam along side and used to drive 2 wheels of his car onto that, the other two wheels on the culvert and he could just about walk underneath.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:21

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:21
HAHAHA!, Cheap ramp!.... flash flood would give you the craps though!!..lol.



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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:19

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:19
Axle

I have a pit in the shed but the Troopy wont fit in the shed.. :-((

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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:22

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:22
Aren't pits for lesser vehicles than a Troopy?

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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:27

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:27
Yes the pit was there well before the Troopy, the missus VW Polo needs a pit .. LOL I can't even get my big head under it.. :-)

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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:43

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:43
Hahahaha!, Maybe a problem there Richard!, or Two!!...lol

Just jokng!!.


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Reply By: GerryP - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 23:44

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 at 23:44
Been wondering he same thing myself. In the process of building a fairly large shed at the moment and intend to put in a pit. Had one at my dad's place when I was younger and it was great.

Would prefer a hoist, but even with a 3 metre high shed, there's not enough room above, especially for a lifted 4by with roof rack.

Will be making sure the water doesn't get in - lots of plastic and external drainage.

While I'm aware of the safety risks, I wouldn't park a car over it permanently (mine's a diesel anyway, so not as bad) to avoid fume buildup. I reckon, like everything, if you're sensible then shouldn't be a problem. Certainly no hassle at the ol' mans and it's been there 45 years.

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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:23

Wednesday, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:23
I service 6 vehicles. I got sick of the smell of burning clutches when driving on the ramps. So I use trolley jack and axle stands, or just put a couple of sleepers under the front wheels to safely keep it up. My floor is gloss painted, so you can slide under easily, and clean up the spills.

If I were to use ramps, they would be bought and not homemade.
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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Wednesday, Feb 25, 2009 at 18:12

Wednesday, Feb 25, 2009 at 18:12
I've had a pit in the garage for the last 21 years, missus reckons that's why we bought the house!
Seriously though it has been a godsend over the years, made it really easy to do servicing on heaps of different vehicles.
Water is a problem as even though we live on the side of a gentle hill the water table rises when it rains and the pit sometimes fills to at least halfway as there is a sump in one end with a natural rock bottom.
Usually drains away just as quickly or I turn a little Rule bilge pump on which empties it pretty quickly.
As we are intending to move I'm putting a shed up at the new place and have decided on a hoist instead of a pit.
If you are doing a long job the knees give out after a day or two if on the wrong side of 50 from climbing up and down the ladder, a hoist also has the ability to lift the entire vehicle off the floor so makes it much easier to rotate tyres, work on brakes etc at anice height without bending over or kneeling on the floor.
A pit is also a right PITA when doing a transmission/transfer R & R on a 4wd as the bloody thing is too high to slide out sideways between chassis and the floor.
My shed will be 3m walls which if you put a steeper pitch on the roof with 9m depth gives enough height to lift the vehicle high enough for me at 5' 4" on a hoist.
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