4.5KG Gas bottle swap and blow

Submitted: Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 13:56
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Not sure if anyone has found this before (searched Forum for it) but I recently took a 4.5kg gas bottle to COLES to do a Swap over. I grabbed a bottle out of the cage which appeared the same size (only 8.5kg's and the smaller ones in the cage). When about to pay for it, I realised it was 3.7kg's only and the cost was $24. I went back and looked in the cage but there were no 4.5's at all. Further inspection reveals that the replacement 3.7kg cylinders are the same height and diameter as the 4.5kg's but had a taller ring on the base to make up the difference. So unless you put them side by side you cannot see the difference in capacity. Bugger that rip-off so I went next door to Mitre10 and refilled the 4.5kg for $13.
So that missing or overlooked .8kg if you are not aware, will make the Swap replacement mob $5 every time a 4.5 is swapped for a 3.7. A scam or has something changed since these 4.5kg's were bought 4 years ago?

Strawb
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Reply By: Member - Matt & Caz H (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 14:02

Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 14:02
Hi Strawb,

Thanks for this tip!!! as long term travellers we go through a lot of gas - having said that we have never used "swap & go" as we like to keep our own bottles and I haven't really liked the idea of swap and go - this just confirms it for me.

Cheers
Caroline
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 17:38

Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 17:38
Swap and go is useful when the 10 years is almost up on the bottle and it is out of date.

Swap and go for a younger bottle.
Don't mind paying the bit extra then :o)
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Reply By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 15:28

Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 15:28
Yep. I always fill my own.
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Reply By: steved58 - Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 15:33

Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 15:33
swap them when the dates about to expire

LOL! Steve
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Follow Up By: happytravelers - Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 21:24

Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 21:24
I've recently had three out of date bottles retested, $27 each, did not matter what size they were. They fitted new valves as part of the inspection and refilled them. I did however have to pay extra for the gas.

Regards Jon
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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 17:31

Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 17:31
They do the same with the 9kg bottles, all the new ones are 8.5kg.
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Follow Up By: Strawb - Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 19:49

Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 19:49
Yeah I found that out awhile back but I think that was to bring it into line with labelling as it never was a 9kg to start with but a generic conversion from LBs.
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Reply By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 18:43

Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 18:43
I have had two swap and with faulty valves. Turned them on and all the gas leaks out to the atmosphere. GONE BACK TO REFILLING MY OWN AT BCF.
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Reply By: burnsy - Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 19:13

Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 19:13
Don't tell me you.re going bush as well as camping, I bet there's lots of cobwebs on that bottle. Don't forget me.
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Reply By: Member - Paul W- Esq (VIC) - Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 21:46

Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 21:46
They themselves use the old cylinders and just dont fill them up as much incase they fail in some way is my guess.
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Follow Up By: Strawb - Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 22:08

Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 22:08
No Paul the base ring is taller. ie: the actual cylinder is about 50mm shorter and the base is made bigger to keep the overall height the same as a 4.5.
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Reply By: Member - Roger B (VIC) - Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 22:37

Thursday, Mar 12, 2009 at 22:37
The news tonight was about Supermarkets not providing the stated quantity on a lot of products. Some items were about 30% short. Maybe they should be looking gas refills too.
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Follow Up By: burnsy - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 09:04

Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 09:04
For years I have been suspicious about how they fill the bottles. I have weighed a couple & have found that they are not full.
Only one place I have ever come across that sold gas per kg & that was Bamaga a few years ago. The guy weighed the bottle before filling & then again after & charged me only for the gas that he put in.
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Reply By: bbuzz - Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 21:42

Friday, Mar 13, 2009 at 21:42
Way back when Adam was a teenager, they would always weigh the gas bottle in the country. It was accepted practice!
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