2006 Mitsubishi Pajero NP GLX3.2L Turbo Diesel 5 spd Tiptronic
Submitted: Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 19:15
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Spikey
Having been turned off the Nissan Patrol 3.0L Turbo Diesel automatic by the majority of membjers' responses and
views of a three local mechanics, we are now exploring the idea of a Mitsubishi Pajero. A friend warned that they are no good on the sand. Does anyone have any advice for us? How do they compare to Toyota Prado?
Reply By: Boobook2 - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 19:29
Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 19:29
The only issue I am aware of with sand is that the rear bumper acts like a sand scoop. But
mine was an NM with no traction control so that might be an issue. Otherwise no problem. If I had my time over again I would probably have bought a Prado, mainly due to the NVH of the Pajero, especially on corregated roads. The diesel is pretty loud. Mind you , on the other hand the earlier Prados were only 90 kW or so if you get a Prado get one with the new donk.
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Follow Up By: Spikey - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 19:45
Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 19:45
Sorry if I sound dumb but what does NVH mean please?
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Follow Up By: toyocrusa - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 20:35
Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 20:35
Stands for something like, Noise,Vehicle, Harshness, which means the amount of outside/road noise transmitted into the cabin.Bob.
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 21:48
Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 21:48
Noise, vibration, Harshness,
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 19:29
Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 19:29
Hi Spikey
Both are good vehicles. As for saying that they are no good in the sand, who has given you this information and did they have first hand knowledge and know what they were doing??
It does not matter what vehicle you drive, if you are not used to sand driving, you will have the same response - get bogged and very easy if you do not know what you are doing.
A few very basic things like reducing tyre pressure and learning how to read the surface is the best teacher. Have said all this, there have been many times when I have been caught out.
As for Pajero v Prado, this is a very big debate, as I have owned 4 Pajeros over a 17 year period and now have a Prado and would I change back or regret buying the Prado - simple, NO WAY, but time will tell.
Cheers
Stephen
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Reply By: briann532 - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 20:03
Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 20:03
As a club 4wd trainer I have taken numerous Pajeros out and
test driven a few.
Even had the opportunity to "borrow" one on
Stockton beach.
I drive a 3.0l patrol and have no hesitation in recommending the pajero.
This weekend, I drove a pathfinder, 100 series, 80 series, GU patrol, pajero, latest prado and a 65 series.
All through some pretty serious stuff around
Lithgow.
Pick of the bunch would have to be the pajero.
Only my humble opinion.
best advice is to hire a few,
test drive for a weekend.
Its a small price to pay to make a smart choice on a major purchase.
Brian
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Reply By: Oldsquizzy (Kununurra) - Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 20:42
Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 20:42
Depending on where you intend to drive, And what type of driving you do, One of the main criteria I would look at is what Dealerships are around those areas.
With mitsubishi you have Mt ISa,
Alice Springs,
Darwin or
Broome. Which leaves you with a long way to get your car towed with a warranty issue. A hell of a good way to buggar up a holiday.
Just a thought.
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Reply By: Russ n Sue - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 08:46
Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 08:46
I owned an NP Pajero from new. It lasted two years. Having said that it was used to drive up and down a 1500 Km long
gas pipeline with very average access. The vehicle quite literally spent 75% of its time off-road.
So far as capability goes, it would go anywhere and the only time I bogged it was my fault. Didn't let the tyres down.
That said, as pointed out by a previous poster, the rear bumper is a sand scoop and I replaced
mine 3 times in two years. Additionally, the radiator support panel cracked in 16
places and had to be replaced. Thank goodness this was done under warranty as the job would have cost over $4000.00 otherwise.
In the two years that I had it, the vehicle was out of action for a total of 17 weeks. Everything was fixed under warranty - but be warned, not without a hell of a fight with Mitsubishi. It got to the point of threatening legal action on one occasion.
I suspect that 99.99% of vehicle users would never use a Pajero for what I did and most, therefore, would not have the troubles I did but just be informed anyway.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:26
Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:26
"the rear bumper is a sand scoop and I replaced
mine 3 times in two years."
I assume this wasn't covered under warranty, even though it's advertised as an off-road vehicle and this problem has been known since 2000 in the NM.
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Follow Up By: Russ n Sue - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:34
Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:34
G'day Mike,
you are right. The bumper was down to me but the two injector pumps, fuel tank, radiator support panel, bonnet, roof, windscreen, front
suspension bushes and other things were paid for by Mitsubishi - after screaming matches on almost every occasion.
Mind you, I'm dark on them for the first bumper. It was secured incorrectly after the genuine Mitsubishi towbar was fitted. It didn't stand a chance.
Cheers
Russ
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Reply By: LeanneW - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 09:35
Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 09:35
Hi Spikey,
I bought a new NL Pajero (petrol) in 1999, and then upgraded to a NS diesel Pajero last year.
The NL was fantastic, never missed a beat. My husband and I took it around OZ in 2004, including some very sandy areas on the West Coast of WA, and never had a problem. We did however deflate our tyres when driving in sand! We took it into
Francois Peron National Park, and up
Cape Leveque immediately after a cyclone, just to name a couple of spots.
I have had a bit of trouble with the NS Pajero - due to the DPF. It had to be towed twice within 6 months because it went into "limp mode". Very frustrating, but Mitusbishi reckon they have fixed the problem now.
Before both purchases, I looked at Prados. The main reason for me choosing the Pajeros was cost - the Pajeros are a few thousand cheaper, and generally come with more options as standard. This issue may not be relevant if buying second-hand. I also bought the NS Pajero because of my great experience with the NL. Whether that turns out to be a good decision, I'm still waiting to see if I have any more problems with it!
When it comes time to upgrade again, I will still look at the Prados too.
Cheers
Leanne
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:24
Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:24
The FOURTH version of the firmware seems to have finally fixed the questionable design of the DPF software.
This only affected the NS Diesel Auto engine.
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Follow Up By: LeanneW - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:32
Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:32
Hi Mike,
My NS is the auto, whereas my NL was a manual. I was going to buy a manual NS, but the salesman talked me out of it. I should have stuck to my guns!
I am also having trouble at the moment trying to find off-road tyres for the NS. I think I'll have to put a separate post up about my problem. I have the VRX model, which has 18in rims. I am finding it just about impossible to get off-road tyres - very frustrating when as everyone knows they are advertised as an off-road vehicle.
Perhaps I should have bought a Prado.....
Leanne
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:37
Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:37
I'll have to replace tyres soon - I'm dreading the cost of replacing ANY type of 18" tyre !!!
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Follow Up By: LeanneW - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 15:54
Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 15:54
Hi Mike,
Would I be correct in assuming you have a Pajero with 18in rims too?
I have found out that we can get 265/65R18 BF Goodrich AT's - at $500 each, apart from that, not much else in an off road tyre in any other brand either. There is a 275/65R18 Cooper, but the tyre place wasn't sure they would fit without a lift done.
I am also trying to find out if I can get some 17in steel rims to fit the Pajero, and therefore have a larger range of 17in off-road tyres to choose from. (plus cheaper!!)
Leanne
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Reply By: Honky - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:02
Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:02
They are a bit boring ie No major mechanical issues, Drives on the tar and gravel roads
well. Has won the DAKAR record number of times, Reasonable service chargers, does off road
well. Tows in 5th gear, no diff or engine problems, lasts for many 100,000's ks.
comfortable, the quite achiever.
Honky
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 13:26
Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 13:26
Hi Spikey
Looks like your looking at previous models , but its worth reading the current 4X4 australia mag which compares the latest Paj , Prado and Pathie.
The Paj wins hands down , and from article you can get some insight into the how it has been improved and hence the weaknesses in previous cars.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 08:31
Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 08:31
Thanks for the headsup Robin. I was amazed at the power/torque increases since purchasing my 3.2L Pajero 4 years ago. I had been assuming that newer Pajeros would be having the standard 2-5kW power increase every year as most seem to achieve, not a massive 29kW and 68Nm. I had been looking at a Dtronics chip for a bit extra pulling power, now i see that it won't even take the figures up to the standard model now. :-)
For all the bagging the Pajeros get and recommendations to buy a Prado etc next time, i'm not so sure about changing next time now :-)
Andrew
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Reply By: Holden4th - Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 20:24
Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 20:24
One of the Pajeros strengths is actually sand, provided you turn off the ASC control via a switch below the console. I've taken my NP auto Diesel 06 across the Simpson in a very soft year, plowed through deep mud and water on the Plenty, experienced very nasty corrugations between Dalhousie and the Fincke and it has yet to let me down. Yes, did collect some sand during the Simpson crossing but this was a minor issue.
I'll be buying another Paj when the lease runs out in two years time.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 00:16
Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 00:16
What tyres were you using for the Simpson ?
Was it the standard
suspension ?
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