Have you ANCAPed your car??

I was under the impression that grenades caused damage in a large area in a circle, sort of from the point of detonation.
How does that apply to yours after its checkered life

If you were in Ireland wouldnt it be kneecapped

ROFL

That's like the Richard Cranium that was trying to wind me up over the Humvee having no crumple zones etc etc.
When I replied that it had plenty of them, they were the coloured things around it in the traffic he was gobsmacked!
They work too, just ask the Commodore driver that changed lanes into me at 80k, the bullbar took a few scratches when it removed the entire left hand side of the commodore from the B pillar back.

I wonder how many stars my motorbike would get ? :-))

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Hi All,
Anyone know how to find ANCAP results for early model vehicles ?
Namely 95 Patrol....
Earliest results I could find on the site was 2004.
Russ

Kiwi, I get that the 2004 Patrol has ANCAP rating of 3 stars.

2004 Patrol ANCAP result

There is a 5 star rating for UCSR which is different

Maybe there are diferent systems.

Hi Kiwi

Ancap figures are interesting information but far from whole picture if you mission is to determine your saftey.

They are good for determining the saftey of the population as a whole, but not your personal saftey.

In the second part of your post - the damage to other cars - is part of the story as well , but all these figures are post crash figures and don't properly take into account the cars ability to avoid an accident in the first place.

The Ucsr figures can also be a help , but what is best is actual crash figures for cars against there total numbers and mileage.

We don't have enough good information for this but one soucre of data from RACV's satistics involving all australian crashes over many years showed that the GQ patrol which has fairly poor secondary saftey (crash saftey) had a massively higher overall saftey rating.
This was because factors such as speed , handling , visibility , rollover likelyhood etc all combine to give it a greater chance of avioding a hit in the first place , and reducing the consequences when an accident occurs.

I am afraid that I cannot help raising this gen X/Y issue again.

The poster must never be game to ride in a bus.

They have no airbags, no seatbelts, no ROP, no curtain airbags, no ETC and many no ABS . They would have a crash rating of minus 50 .
OH SHOCK OH HORROR.

To me this safety rating stuff has escalated to mass hysteria.

What percentage of cars have accidents bad enough to trigger airbags???? And many airbag cars that have had accidents never have a new airbag fitted. So be worried.

AND as the earlier poster alluded to, when a 2 tonne 4WD hits a smaller car it is not the same as hitting a concrete barrier.

Get real and get over it.

Regards Philip A

Yes real world accidents usually involve another vehicle, not an immovable lump of concrete!

We had an incident inwhich we were vehicle 3 in a two vehicle accident. Vehicle 1 hit vehicle 2 which then hit stationary vehicle 3...us...


Vehicle 2, a commodore had its boot corner shortened by about a foot as it spun into vehicle 3. Vehicle 3, a 90 series Prado with aluminuim bullbar only required to have the bullbar collapsable spaces replaced. The bar was fine & undamaged only having moved back 5mm or so.

Of course the heavier vehicle tends to always come out in front, for two reasons...

1. they are usually stronger thats why they are heavier (trucks)
2. the occupants suffer less g's on impact since their vehicle takes longer to stop after impact. The light car, stops a lot quicker & infact also gets pushed back....

Really these tests that run a car into a solid concrete barrier are really only good to compare what it would be like running into a stationary truck @ 60km/h....not exactly real life when you could hit a truck at a closing speed closer to 200km/h....

To be safer cars need to be lighter & ideally actually more equal in weight....so the forces are shared. Unfortunately thats not likely to happen when you can get 'cars' like the 200 series on the same roads as a little daihatsu...interestingly both ends of the scale are made in the same country.

The 200 series is a very safe car, but would it be thought of as 'safe' if every other vehicle was a loaded semitrailer?