Oziexplorer and laptops

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Hi all, I am looking to buy a laptop and installing oziexplorer and some maps to use with it. My problem is that i don't know if i can use oziexplorer with the current laptops as they have no com port and I was told the adaptor for going from a 9pin to usb wont be available much longer. I have a garmin 60csx which i was going to use as my GPS receiver. Also I was told that laptops with hard drives in them wont stand up to off-roading. If this is the case then the whole thing is a waste of time. Could someone please shed some light on the subjects for me. Thankyou
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Reply By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:07

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:07
Neptune I run my Garmin through my Toshiba laptop with Ozi. No problems at all. Have the connection leads and connect via the USB hub. You will need power leads for your GPS and Laptop.

Other option is to get an EeePC and a GPS mouse all up less than the cost of a laptop.

I use both laptops depending on where I'm going and have them sitting on a shelf behind the seat. No issues with vibration at all.
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Follow Up By: On Patrol & TONI - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 19:08

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 19:08
I'm with you Dunc
I have an EeePC (solid state drive, NO disc reader) with all the maps installed (along with an 8Gb XD to help.

Small enough not to be a problem to mount and larger than any GPS screen. Super fast start up times also. I also have a USB dvd drive that I take with me so we can watch occasional movies etc, or play "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire"great fun in a camp at night. It also connects to the internet easily for communication when in range.
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 20:05

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 20:05
Another thing I've noticed Colin is that my GPS mouse is more reliable and I don't get Sat drop out like I do with the Garmin linked to the external bonnet mounted aerial.
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Follow Up By: On Patrol & TONI - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 20:42

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 20:42
ditto with my Garmin map60c
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:11

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:11
Not worth getting a COM port adaptor for your GPS. May as well buy a GPS mouse that runs off the USB port - they cost about $55 from memory. Keep the GPS as a backup/handheld etc

Hard Drives ???? I've used laptops for the past 8 years on very corrugated roads and haven't had a problem, but I mount mine in its own padded pocket. I also used to use Velcro to mount a laptop on a carpeted board, and the velcro absorbs shock.
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Reply By: Member - Fred B (NT) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:28

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:28
I use my Garmin 60csx with my HP Special Edition laptop using the USB port, with no problems. I sit the lap top on one of those hard plastic trays with the cushion under it (normally used for TV dinners on your lap)... No problems at all. As others have said, don't even bother trying to use a serial adapter.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:12

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:12
No need for a 9 pin serial connection with the 60Csx as it will do moving map on Oziexplorer via USB.

Whilst not all laptops have serial ports as standard these days, there are still quite a few that do. Business level machines in the Toshiba and Dell range will tend to have them in certain models. etc

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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:35

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:35
Don't bother with Serial I tried it and it was a lot of mucking around. Ended up with a USB GPS mouse for very cheap and it works really well. My laptop lived under the drivers seat and the carpet under there is pretty soft and I have never had a drama.
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Reply By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:22

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:22
Not sure why all the negative feed back on the USB / Com port adapter

I have a laptop and a Magellan using the adapter with no issues...but yes the adpater is similar price to the the little GPS USb mouse thingy
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 19:58

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 19:58
People had problems with the windows XP recognising the converter as a mouse. As a result the mouse pointer would go crazy, and it was hard to work out the problem. So you had to have it disconnected when booting up the computer - a slight PITA
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 21:22

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 21:22
Phil, I used to have that problem with the laptop recognising the GPS signal as a mouse with a serial port straight in from my Magellan if I started the GPS before the laptop. It was a real pain and a good reason to not have it at all. With the newer system no such bother, no additional things on the screen either.
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Reply By: bgreeni - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:33

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:33
No one has mentioned a Blue tooth GPS receiver. I find this to be a good solution (less cables to clutter up things - the one have the battery will last all day)

Most modern laptops, PDA etc.. will connect via blue tooth
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 13:07

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 13:07
Hi Neptune
Like all of the above. Once you start using it, you will ask yourself why you did not get the set up before now.

As your Garmin Map 60 CSx uses USB to power and send data to the notebook (I have 3 Garmin GSP units, one also being the 60 CSx), the GPS will connect to the notebook with the supplied USB power lead that come with the GPS and once Ozi is started and you start on Moving map, bingo you will see where in this great country you may be.

You can purchase any notebook, as they will all come, usually with a minimum of 3 UBS ports.The only thing that you should purchase is an inverter to convert your 12v DC Power into 240v AC to power the notebook without the main battery of the notebook going flat, and a car mounting kit for the GPS.

All the best and you will enjoy your new purchase.

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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 17:47

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 17:47
Far safer to buy a CONVERTER to up your 12 volts to whatever the lappy takes Usually about 19volts.
No worrys about having 240 volts in a confined space that could include liquids
They cost from $60 up but a 6000ma is really the minimum you need.




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Reply By: neptune - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 15:47

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 15:47
Thanks everyone for your informative replies. Much wiser now.
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Reply By: GerryP - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 22:02

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 22:02
Hi Neptune,

All good advice above, but I will add that I have never had a problem with a hard drive (touch wood...). I have used 3 different laptops now over many years, have travelled the worst of corrugations and always have my system writing a log file to the hard drive as I travel.

I reckon laptop drives are very robust and able to take a fair amount of punishment.

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Reply By: Ozboc - Friday, Mar 20, 2009 at 08:14

Friday, Mar 20, 2009 at 08:14
I got a lap top from ebay with built in bluetooth -- $300 2 gig Pentium has everything i need and more ( dvd burner blah blah blah) then got a Blutooth solar powered receiver (20 channel) off ebay HK for about $60 sits on the dash board of the nissan with velcro and i have not had to charge it for over a year as the little built in solar panel does it for me

GPS receiver hooks up in about 1 min rain hail or shine on cold start up

some people feel the need to go out and buy a brand new laptop for 3 k... my question is why ?? unless you intend on using it for business and high end usage , its not needed to waste such money - chances are if your going to use it for camping it may get dirty , scratched , dropped , bumped around your car - so why not just buy a cheap throw away that will last a few years....

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Reply By: Luke2 - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 17:33

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 17:33
I've just bought an eeePC 900A, it's a little beauty. Has anyone found a good 12 volt car adapter for this unit? there's some on eBay etc but it would be good to hear from someone who has used these successfully. I'd like to avoid the inverter method if I can.
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