Tyre load ratings...Buyer beware
Submitted: Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 13:18
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oldfart1953
Hi,
Just doing a little research on replacing the tyres on my 200 series, I have always had very good service from an American made tyre?? (usually known better by it's three letter abbreviation 'brand').
Toyota is currently running 285/65R17 Dunlop AT22's with load rating of 116, replacement tyre 285/70R17 (three letter abbreviation 'brand') has a load rating of 112.
BUYER BEWARE having a lower rated tyre will cause massive problems for you should you have an accident or similar that could result from fitting tyres of a lower rating than originally fitted.
Needless to say I will now have to find an alternate tyre.
Possibly one of the other American brands which actually has a higher load rating.
Seriously though it is really scary people buying on price only & forgetting about quality & standards....also salespeople not knowing their product. Just trying to get a sale for the sake of getting a sale.
CU down the road
Tony H
Hunter Valley
Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 14:38
Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 14:38
Just curious Tony,......
Why would you want to change to a lower profile tyre in the first place.....unless of course you don't intend to leave the black top in the Tojo?
Cheers,
Peter.
OKA196 Motorhome
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Follow Up By: donk - Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 14:42
Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 14:42
The tyre he was looking at as a replacement is a higher profile than the original fitted but a lower load rating
Regards Don
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 14:52
Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 14:52
My mistake Don.
I thought the OE stuff was 16" not 17".
I reccon it is crazy to fit 17" wheels to these cars....
Cheers,
Peter
OKA196 Motorhome
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Follow Up By: oldfart1953 - Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 15:02
Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 15:02
Why do you say that Peter?
Tony H
Hunter Valley
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 17:08
Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 17:08
Tony, all other things being equal, a low profile tyre has less ability to deform and less ability to absorb the shocks of corrugations and the like than a high profile tyre simply because the side walls are much lower.
And when it comes to soft stuff, a low profile can't possibly bag out as much at low pressure.
Have a look at Army Unimogs, or mining trucks. They all use 100% profile tyres.
The OKA was built with 9.00 x 16 (255/100R 16). That is a big tyre. I use a 305/70R 19.5 (same rolling diameter) to get a higher load rating, but the 16s give a softer ride in the bush and are better in the sand.
When I bought the OKA, it had 265/70R 19.5s fitted. They were terrible. Shook the vehicle to pieces. I also had a set of 16s that I tried and they were best. The 305s anr somewhere in between, but closer to the 16s.
Cheers,
Peter
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Reply By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 16:08
Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 16:08
Maybe you should look at an LT spec tyre? A load rating of 112 sounds like a passenger construction to me.
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Reply By: Rangiephil - Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 16:43
Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 16:43
285/70R17 (three letter abbreviation 'brand') has a load rating of 112.
Both the BFG (which I assume you are talking about) sites in Australia and US do not list this as a tyre size in ATKO, so I assume it is not available.
So what tyre are you referring to?
I would be very surprised if a BFG LT tyre had a lower load rating than a Japanese Dunlop.
Regards Philip A
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Follow Up By: oldfart1953 - Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 17:34
Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 17:34
Hi Philip
Your right the BFG site 'lists LT285/70R17's but No spec's other than speed rating see this link
http://www.bfgoodrich.com.au/index.php?a=tires.off_road_suv
I rang O'Neils tyres in Cessnock & Harts tyres in Manly Vale today & both came back saying this tyre IS available & the load rating is 112. Apparently the website hasn't been updated since its release.
I can only tell you what the 'experts' tell me
Tony H
Hunter Valley
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 17:35
Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 17:35
Tony!! You can say B F Goodrich!!! Its not a crime!! Michael
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Reply By: RobAck - Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 19:01
Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 19:01
Bridgestone will release a 17" LT version of their D694 around
Easter but I suspect they will be in limited supply for a while. Load rating will be in the 119 to 123 range, not sure on the final spec as yet.
We've been running the AT version of the 694 for several years, load rating of 112 and not really had a problem and we run around 20000km off bitumen each year. Lowering tyre pressures and speed is always a nice way to go. But you can be assured there is no such thing as a puncture proof tyre.
As
well there are plenty of other tyre options out there including Toyo, Goodyear, Mickey Thompson etc.The key matter is to ensure that whatever you put on is legal against your tyre placard and/or within whatever oversize allowance you local Dept of Transport allows
Regards
RobA
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Reply By: the redbacks - Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 20:28
Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 20:28
hi tony,
yellow pages in all states have a 1800 No to "Michelin" they own BFG,they would be able to tell you all the specks you require.also remember it's the "air pressure" that carries the weight,the tyre is just a vessel to hold air,vehical weight & loads carried need to be take in consideration,for correct pressures.
regards
redbacks
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Reply By: Jimbo (WA) - Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 00:19
Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 00:19
Tony,
I've been through this with my SR5 Hilux. You HAVE to comply with the tyre placard and the ratings required for each axle - NOT the tyres fitted when you by the vehicle.
I can't believe that one of the known "4WD" brands dont measure up to specs?
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Follow Up By: Wayne's 60 - Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 02:32
Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 02:32
G'day Jim,
an interesting comment with regards to the tyre placard.
Recently had a vehicle on a course, placard tyre pressure 51psi on a Nissan GU ute, IN SMALL PRINT ON TYRE WALL .....
Maximum pressure ... 44psi.
I'm taking a guess that the wrong tyres were fitted to the vehicle.
FWIW, there was a 900 litre steel fuel tank full of diesel, with pump and hose, sitting on the tray.
Under tyred to say the least.
Your thoughts??
Cheers,
Wayne.
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:03
Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:03
Hi Tony
I have a 200 cruiser and BFG TA's LT285/70R17. Just checked their load rating and its 121/118R. From memory the 118R is its rating in dual wheel configuration - but don't quote me on that.
Either way, the BFG LT has a significantly higher load rating than the standard 200 tyre. I am very happy with their performance, slightly stiffer ride than standard but adjustable depending on the pressure you run.
Cheers
Captain
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