Tyres for Darkie

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I am trying to decide what breed of LT tyres to put on Darkie next.

I am considering either BFG AT or Maxxis Bighorns in 265 x 75 R16. I will NOT be using Coopers ;)

I am also considering new tyres for the trailer as well in a 235 x 85 R16. They are currently BFG AT but are pretty worn..........I am wondering if I should go the same path as Willem and use MRF's haha

Also what are the better brand of tubes to have as spares as the trailer has Split rims.

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Reply By: Member - Warfer (VIC) - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:03

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:03
Hiya Kev

After all this time ive just found out who Darkie is..lol Dont ask me what i assumed..lol


Go the Mickey Thompson MTZ...Stop mucking around..

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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:09

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:09
hahahahaha

Have I ruined you night no hey LOL

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Reply By: Krakka - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:04

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:04
Hi Kev, 1st thing I would do is get rid of the splits on the trailer. Bridgestone D661 are a really tough tyre, A/T pattern have used on my cruiser for a few years. Now I have them on the camper in 235/85/16.
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:07

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:07
After removing 4 tyres off rims on Sunday I am thinking about selling the Alloy Rims on Darkie and getting splits for both Darkie and the trailer LOL

From what I have found the 235's won't fit on a 16 x8 rim :(


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Follow Up By: perthburts - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:09

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:09
It's been said that Mickey Thompson's come out of the Coopers factory....... If you realy don't want Coopers, don't get Mickeys
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Follow Up By: Krakka - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:45

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:45
Kev I am running 235's on toyota 1 piece steel 16 X 6.5 rims. These were standard on the RV model. Much easier to stick a plug in a tubeless than to muck around with tubes. IMHO


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Follow Up By: Member - Warfer (VIC) - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 23:54

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 23:54
***It's been said that Mickey Thompson's come out of the Coopers factory....... If you realy don't want Coopers, don't get Mickeys***


What a silly statement,I can tell you they are not made to the same design, quality, etc etc..

Just google search the problems with Cooper Tyres compared to Mickey Thompson,ive read and read stories about people that will never buy cooper tyres again,yet i have not seen one about mickey thompson and especially the MTZ...Statements like that stop people from buying an excellent tyre...


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Reply By: Wherehegon - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:06

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:06
Hiya Kev, mate go the bf's, you will be happy with them especially the weight of the cruiser. I have the 75 profile and classed as an LT, they are that strong in the sidewall that were I live, like a bloody rabbit warren left right left right I have no feathering of the tyres on the front and I dont take it easy through the bends. The only downfall is they do give that bit firmer ride, (probably wont be that noticable on the cruiser due to the weight compared to the prado) I have done nearly 40 thou on them now and not even half worn. The only thing I will say is their not fantastic grip wise on the wet roads but like most things you drive to the conditions. I had them on the lux prior and also very happy just a bit twichy in the rear end but then not much weight in the rear. Hope all going well..........WHG
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:09

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:09
Steve,

I had BFG AT's on the Triton which is why I am thinking about them again.

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Reply By: Member - Jeff O (VIC) - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:12

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:12
Kev.
When i was returning from Innaminka last year i met a main roads bloke at Tibooburra.He told me they get their best results using
BFG AT on all their vehicles.
I am going to buy an extra set of wheels for my 200 series and fit them with BFG AT'S.
Can i get Sunrasia steel wheels to suit.
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:24

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:24
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Would steel rims from a 100 series fit it??


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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff O (VIC) - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:28

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:28
Kev
Don't know .I will check with my tyre bloke in the morning.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 21:30

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 21:30
Jeff,
Your Toyota dealer will sell you a set of 17x8 steel wheels to suit your 200series: Part No 42611-60630 for about $130 each.
I doubt that the 100series 16" steel wheels would clear the calipers.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff O (VIC) - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 07:48

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 07:48
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thanks. i will check them out this morning.
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Reply By: Willem - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:26

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:26
Just get a set of bitumen tyres, Kev. After all thats where you drive most of the time....:-)


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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G Gulmarrad - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:31

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:31
took the words outta my mouth Willem
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:33

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:33
Willem,

I am hoping to change that with the next set LOL

Mark...get back in ya Missan haha
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Reply By: Stu & "Bob" - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 21:28

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2009 at 21:28
G'day Kev,

I have put a set of these on Bob.

Westlake Tyres

Have a look at the CR857. It is a 10 ply tyre with the same rolling diameter as the 7.50 x 16, but just a fraction wider.

At $160 a corner fitted and balanced, they are pretty good value.

BTW, Bob is running on split rims, as one can repair a tyre easily, and 7.50 x 16 tyres are available pretty much anywhere.

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Follow Up By: Krakka - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 06:11

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 06:11
Howdy Stu,

I don't see how tyres are easier to fix on splits. If you get a puncture you have yo take the tyre off to fix the tube, with tubeless you don't even have to take the tyre off of the car to fix the puncture. I have plenty of split rims sitting in my garage but can't see the sense in them.

Not kicking ya, just don't see how it is easier.

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Follow Up By: Stu & "Bob" - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:33

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:33
G'day Krakka,

I carry a couple of tyre levers that I got from $upercheap for $20 and some tubes and patches in Bob. I have had bad experiences with the rope plugs pulling out and destroying tyres when I was using them years ago to repair truck tyres. Rope plugs are at best a temporary repair, and a more permanent repair should be carried out as soon as practicable. It is easier for me to do the job once properly, rather than twice if one was using plugs.

No offence taken or intended, but each to their own, I guess.


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Reply By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 08:00

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 08:00
You're a conformist....buy the BFG's :-)

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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 09:50

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 09:50
Kev,

I would do a bit more research about tyre sizes.

I have been running 235/85/16 on the paj for about 13 years.

Used to be noticeably cheaper than 265/75/16, and there was a good range.

In the last few years have noticed that 265/75/16 is relatively cheaper now compared to 235/85/16, only a few dollars more, instead of 10% to 20% more. Also 265/75/16 now seems to have a larger range of brands and patterns available.
Most probably because 265/75/16 is now a more commonly used than 235/85/16.

Have started thinking if it is worthwhile to ditch the 235/85/16 and go to 265/75/16. :o) Will mean new rims for me though, and I have 10- 16x6 nissan rims for 3 axles. :O(

I pick the nissan rims up at the dump for nix now. They are off the 95 to 98 RX patrol.

So why not go 265/75/16 on the trailer?
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:50

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:50
John,

The trailer has split rims and the 265's are too wide for the rims :(

The 235's are supposed to have the same rolling diameter as the 265"s so at a pinch I can used the splits from the trailer on Darkie when travelling if needed.
I will eventually get rid of the splits on the trailer ;)

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Reply By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 18:41

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 18:41
I got a price today for the 265 x 75 R16

BFG At were $370 F&B each

Bighorns were $285 F&B each

That was from Bob Jane, I am still waiting for the others to get back to me with a deal.


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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 18:47

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 18:47
The going rate up here (cannonvale) is $340 for the Cooper ATR's, BFG's, Dickies etc all within $3 of each other! tyrepower dealerships.

Don't forget the $7 or whatever they charge you for tyre disposal.....

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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff O (VIC) - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 18:59

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 18:59
Kev
The 100 series wheels don't fit the 200.
My tyre bloke tells me Sunraysia don't make steel wheels for the 200 series Landcruiser .
I will get the Toyota one's at $136 each.
I have a price of $440 each for BFG AT 285/70R/17 .

Still checking to see if i can get better
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 19:42

Thursday, Mar 26, 2009 at 19:42
The price quoted was without the disposal fee of $5.00

They even offered that I dispose of them myself :)

I need 5 tyres to totally trash (they are Coopers so it won't be hard to kill them properly ;)

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