V8 cruiser IFS converted to live axle.What fits ???

Submitted: Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 21:54
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Hi everyone,I have a V8 cruiser with IFS, and just thinking out loud, Is there another live axle 4x4 that would fit the cruisers wide front end ??? Perhaps a ford F100 or F350, any other suggestions would be appreciated. thanks...
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 23:24

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 23:24
People have put rfs 105 diffs under the front of 100's, the ring and pinion in the ifs is thesame as rfs....others have put gu front diffs in and ran 105 hubs for stronger diff centre. The 105 (and 80 series) front diff is the best option, as it all looks std when finished. differences between 80 and 105 is hubs and ratios only.
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Follow Up By: Bob the - Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 09:23

Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 09:23
Thanks Dozer.
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Reply By: Member - Mark E (VIC) - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 23:46

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 23:46
Bob,

It is much easier to graft the factory turbo engine (1HD FTE) in to an existing RFS 105 series. The LCOOL group has a couple who have done this conversion and there are a few mechanics around now who have experience in this.

I think the engineering involved in changing the whole front end of the car, given the differences in the chassis between the two would be prohibitively expensive. Engine swap would be my choice if I had the $$.

Cheers,

Mark
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Follow Up By: Bob the - Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 09:24

Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 09:24
Thanks Mark.
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Reply By: Member - Don M (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 08:03

Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 08:03
I presume you have a 100 series V8 LC. The KDSS equipped LC200 has as good, or better articulation than most live axle machines, including the mighty Patrol if you believe the pics posted some time back.

But anyway, if you really want a live axle LC 100 with power/torque it would be cheaper and better to buy a 105 diesel and put an aftermarket turbo on it.
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Follow Up By: Bob the - Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 09:25

Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 09:25
Thanks Don.
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Reply By: Inkbandit79 - Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 08:09

Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 08:09
Bob I've got the same 4wd and if you go through with it ill be keen to know how you go I was thinking of converting mine to part time 4wd as ive lifted it a fair bit if tis clearance your after or articulation check out snake racing they do a diff drop bracket, with the torsion bars wound up and the bracket installed it returns the cv shafts to there normal angle so as there is not as much stress on them, it gives you near on three inches in the front that gets rid of the nose down stance that they have
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Reply By: Bob the - Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 09:22

Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 09:22
Inkbandit. The nose down stance is part of my reason for looking in to it, also the amount of travel the front suspension has or lack of. I had a LC100 4.5 with a 3inch lift,that absorbed everything outback roads had to offer.I currently own a 1999 GXV V8 with a 50mm lift,however the front end is only lifted 15mm for safety reasons I;m advised,so i thought I would put the idea out there for discussion. I don't want to run tyres bigger than 33inch just looking to lift the front end and make it stronger to as it has a reputation for not holding up as well as a live axle on the big outback trips... thanks
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Reply By: putrol - Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 14:58

Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 14:58
why noy just buy a 4.2 patrol & be done with it!
see how easy that was
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Follow Up By: Bob the - Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 20:21

Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 20:21
Bugger, never thought of that Mr Putrol... How many killerwasps did you gain the other day getting it tuned to keep up with the V8 cruiser ???
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Reply By: Member - Tony V (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 17:51

Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 17:51
Hi,

I have installed a new cross member in my IFS 100. I now have a full 3 inch lift on the front and less than 10 degrees drive shaft angle.
From the attached picture you can see that I have a just about a full 12 inches of upward wheel travel. The 100 has no downward bump stop just the upward one. which helps with articulation.

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I got mine from http://4wd1.com.au/ifs_100_series.html

7 bolts - 4 on the cross member for support and 1 for the diff locator plus 2 more for the diff to existing locations. comes with all spacers etc.
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Adjust torsion bars with both front wheels off the ground 5 turns = 10 mm. Then go to a good place to have the front realigned.
Not just toe in toe out, top and bottom alignment as well.

Well worth doing and lets me travel with the big boys... :)
I would think that I have as much travel as a patrol. possible more..
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Follow Up By: Bob the - Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 20:27

Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 20:27
Thanks Tony I love your work. Did you have to have it engineered to get insurance ?? Have you changed the shocks ?? Is it in RWC.with this mod ??Thanks Bobthe.
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Follow Up By: Inkbandit79 - Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 21:54

Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 21:54
tony what did the bracket cost you? the diff relocator gave me at least 60 mm from stock that leveled out mine im running the 400kg OME setup with the torsion bars wound up to suit not sure of the exact angle of the shafts but
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony V (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 22:30

Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009 at 22:30
Bob,

Thanks for the comments.

No engineering required (NSW) and yes road worthy, the Shocks are OME for 2" lift, have not extended them fully yet as far as I can tell.

Insurance is ok with the conversion.
Rear is ARB - OME 2" lift @ 200kg+ (each) constant springs with a 30mm poly spring spacer. Gives about 4" overall, and 3" when fully loaded.

Inkbandit79,

The bracket was $350 including postage. I already had OME torsion bars and spent quite a bit of time getting the front right, jack up adjust, drive around the block and measure each side, then do it again, and again until right. once the front was realigned, it felt like a different car.

I have been told that the drive shaft should be between level and 22 degrees, mine is about 10.

Car sits level, many IFS 100 owners asked what I have done, seems to sit higher that most with a similar lift.

I run 275x70x16 (31") as road tyres and the gap in the wheel arches look massive, off road or touring I run 285x75x16 (33").

The lift allows me to crawl over rocks and through ruts as the articulation works realy well.
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Follow Up By: Inkbandit79 - Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 07:28

Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 07:28
tony i checked it out online last night its a similar bracket to the snake racing on (Same principle) when i get back to perth i'll take a foto to show you mine, IHow did you go with addjusting your factory headlights? any drama's as i havn't done mine yet
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony V (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:00

Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:00
I am lead to believe that these are made by Sleeoffroad in the USA. www.sleeoffroad.com
The Snake, Sleeoffroad and 4WD1 unit is nearly identical, including the bolts and spacers.

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2nd pic is the 4WD1 unit in Blue.
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3rd pic is the Snake unit in Black


Quick picture of my 100 on Mt Howitt Vic just after Christmas
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Fully loaded as roof rack loaded.

Good luck with with whichever way you choose to go..
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony V (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:02

Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:02
Opps missed the Slee picture
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SleeOff Road unit
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Follow Up By: Bob the - Thursday, Apr 02, 2009 at 06:27

Thursday, Apr 02, 2009 at 06:27
Thanks again Tony for your feedback and the pictures really help a lot. Your cruiser's stance is much improved,looks great, now it's off to my local 4wd shop to arrange a fitting... Cheers mate.
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Follow Up By: Bob the - Thursday, Apr 02, 2009 at 19:38

Thursday, Apr 02, 2009 at 19:38
G'day Tony,Today I remembered a thread I read back in November.. Ragarding a 4inch lift on a V8 cruiser that had 35s on it... the place that done the work is in Geelong, vic.. I spoke to them today, they offer a platanum bilstein 3inch lift that includes, 2xrear coils,2x rear shocks,2x long travel front shocks, they remove the A shaped front control arms,and strengthen by welding, add a crossmember, alighnment and fitting, $2900... If you would like call the number is 03 52211371... I'm looking at having mine done in 3 weeks time.. All the best.
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Reply By: joff1 - Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 16:34

Wednesday, Apr 01, 2009 at 16:34
I have a 105 with a Multi valve TD conversion. Quite a straight forward thing to do. Costs about $17 or 18k less what ever you get for your old engine.

I'd reckon that would be a damn site cheaper and easier than engineering a decent front end back into a 100.
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