Innaminka and Cameron Corner

Submitted: Tuesday, Apr 07, 2009 at 20:14
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Hi all,
Can someone please tell me if it's possible to go from SW QLD to Innaminka, down the Strzelecki Track and across to Cameron corner through Merty Merty in a sedan, 4 cyl 2 wheel drive? Can I do it or am I asking for trouble? Then going down to Broken Hill. Going in about 2 weeks.. Appreciate any feedback. Cheers, Steve
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Reply By: Cougar Tag-Along-Tours Pty. Ltd. - Tuesday, Apr 07, 2009 at 20:27

Tuesday, Apr 07, 2009 at 20:27
yes your are asking for trouble ,especially after the wet condition up there.
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Reply By: Rangiephil - Tuesday, Apr 07, 2009 at 20:27

Tuesday, Apr 07, 2009 at 20:27
Anything may be possible but you are asking for trouble.

While some of the Merty Merty track is clay capped and excellent ( near the mine) there are several long stretches of deep sand.

The track crosses many dunes and on several the clay capping has disintegrated just over the crest into enormous potholes filled with soft sand.

As far as the Stezlecki is concerned it is a major dirt road and generally does not have a sand problem , although there are patches of bulldust where the clay has disintegrated.


The road from Cameron Corner to Tibooburra was about the worst I encountered last May , especially in Sturt National park.

The ranger had a sense of humour recapping the road as he left about an 8 inch ledge hidden by soft sand waiting for the next truckload of clay. When I hit it at about 40Kmh and flew into the air, he looked at me as if I was the silly one.

You could have no trouble with luck or you could tear the suspension out on an unseen or unexpected washout, or pitfall.

Regards Philip A



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Reply By: Garbutt - Tuesday, Apr 07, 2009 at 20:33

Tuesday, Apr 07, 2009 at 20:33
Take it easy and you will be okay if the road is dry. If wet park up for a day or two and it will be dry again. These roads are generally okay for a 2wd.
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Reply By: Willem - Tuesday, Apr 07, 2009 at 21:06

Tuesday, Apr 07, 2009 at 21:06
Yep. Take it easy and you will be OK. JUst dodge the bad spots on the road :-)
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Tuesday, Apr 07, 2009 at 21:59

Tuesday, Apr 07, 2009 at 21:59
I have seen plenty of 2wd vehicles in that part of the world.

The manager at the Cameron Corner Store used to drive an XD Falcon.

Like all dirt roads it varies depending on how long it is since the grader was on it but unless it rains it should be no problem.

As Willem says take it slow and watch what you are doing and you should be fine.

I will be out that way myself in mid April. What are you driving Ill keep an eye out for you?

Duncs
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Follow Up By:- Tuesday, Apr 07, 2009 at 22:08

Tuesday, Apr 07, 2009 at 22:08
Thanks Duncs,
I'm in a black Honda Accord Euro. Hoping to come from Thargominda and see Innaminka and the Coopers then leave through the corner andTibooburra. Mid April.
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Reply By: ian - Tuesday, Apr 07, 2009 at 23:11

Tuesday, Apr 07, 2009 at 23:11
Steve,
Tough tyres and good clearance may be an issue. The roads are a million times better than when locals drove them in early Holdens.
Depends on how much "trouble" you are capable of handling. Unless its wet there is no reason to not go.
Ian
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Follow Up By: Rangiephil - Wednesday, Apr 08, 2009 at 09:56

Wednesday, Apr 08, 2009 at 09:56
I know I wouldn't do it in an Accord Euro.

FWD jap cars have that lovely alloy sump hanging down, and as you say the tyres are very delicate.

One or two tyres would pay for rental of a more suitable car like a soft roader or jap 1 tonne ute. Of course you still would be liable for tyre damage.

Surely you guys remember that Holdens etc were built for bad roads with great ground clearance and tough components.

And I have driven 2wds extensively off road including a VW type 3 to Fraser, and Vauxhall Viva to Charleville and Cunnamulla before Bitumin. I once also got stuck in a ZH Fairlane on a dirt track after a smidgeon of rain by slipping into a washaway.

Having said that I once saw a Mazda 626 FWD make it from Wanarring to Bouke after 3 inches of rain by mingling in our convoy of Range Rovers. 2 of the 4wds went off but he made it.
Regards Philip A
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Wednesday, Apr 08, 2009 at 10:07

Wednesday, Apr 08, 2009 at 10:07
"surley you guys remember that holdens ect were built for bad roads with great ground clearance and tough components " ,, ROFLMAO ,
13inch wheels and tires really made for great ground clearance.
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Follow Up By: Rangiephil - Wednesday, Apr 08, 2009 at 11:30

Wednesday, Apr 08, 2009 at 11:30
The tyres were 100profile so the rolling diameter was as big as 15-16 inch wheels today.

Clearance to sump was FAR greater than a Jap FWD and the sumps were steel.

Simple wishbone front ends, and live rear axles with semi elliptics, sort of like a jap 1tonne ute of today.

AND they were extensively tested on dirt. I remember the HQ was criticised because among other things the stones swore through the inside back guards.

Regards Philip A
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Wednesday, Apr 08, 2009 at 12:11

Wednesday, Apr 08, 2009 at 12:11
Rangiephill , your dreaming if you think that a 13inch wheel even with a 100% profile [ no such thing ,best is 95] comes even close to the clearance of a 15 / 16 inch wheel and tire ....
13inch with 95 profile has a diameter of 24.5 in and sidewall height of 5.79 inches...
16 inch with even only a 70 profile has a diameter of 31+ inches and a sidewall height of 8.12 inches ...

1.5 inch extra clearance just from wheel +
2.33 inches extra clearance in sidewall height = 3.83 clearance difference ,,,
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Reply By: Rangiephil - Wednesday, Apr 08, 2009 at 15:38

Wednesday, Apr 08, 2009 at 15:38
I don't usually get into dicussions like this .

A Honda Euro Accord has 235.45X18 tyres . according to Bridgestone these have a rolling diameter of 660 MM. I think a 70 series 16 inch tyre would be on a 4WD!!LOL

A 640x13 tyre standard on FC Holden according to the BF Goodrich site has a rolling diameter of 25.3 inches or about 634MM

or only about 4% difference ( or maybe 10MM radius)

BTW the Honda Euro has an unladen ground clearance of 150MM and a full load ground clearance of 110MM according to Honda Australia. Geez I hope there are no crowns on those roads.

I think the old FC would have a LOT more than that, and what is the lowest point was usually the diff pumpkin which went up and down with the wheels, vs the Honda where the lowest point would be sump or exhaust etc which goes down as the suspension hits a bump. Some of the sand crowns on the Merty Merty are AFAIR much more than 110MM.
Regards Philip A

Regards Philip A
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Follow Up By:- Wednesday, Apr 08, 2009 at 20:29

Wednesday, Apr 08, 2009 at 20:29
I appreciate the tech details you went into. Things I hadn't considered. I was more concerned with getting bogged in sand. By the way, my tyres are 17 inch but your other measurements are correct. It's a 2005 model. Any better suited tracks to take in the area? I'd really like to see a bit of desert and experience some solitude.
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Reply By:- Wednesday, Apr 08, 2009 at 20:36

Wednesday, Apr 08, 2009 at 20:36
Can anyone suggest alternate trips in the area that would be suitable for 2wd sedan if the Merty Merty road is considered too rough? I'd like to see a bit of the area. What about the Birdsville track?
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Follow Up By: Rangiephil - Thursday, Apr 09, 2009 at 10:14

Thursday, Apr 09, 2009 at 10:14
Well I think if you went to Tibooburra from Noccundra The road would be better, although many semis travel up this road with oil pipes. I have not travelled this road but the semis go this way rather than via the Merty Merty so I presume it is better.

You could then go to Cameron Corner from Tibooburra.

This will give you plenty of desert to see!

But really after looking at the ground clearance I guess my opinion has hardened against whether you should take the Accord.

Regards Philip A
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Reply By: troopy 2005 - Saturday, Apr 11, 2009 at 19:05

Saturday, Apr 11, 2009 at 19:05
if you value youre car dont do it .Even if you did get through it would cost you a fortune in wheel alignments and Cv joints .The road can have deep wheel ruts and big rocks.
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