Cruise control for Patrol
Submitted: Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 20:06
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peter
I am thinking of fitting cruise control to my GQ Patrol 4.2 diesel,can onyone advise me on what the AP50 cruise control unit that K mart stocks is like,would this unit fit and operate on my Patrol also who else stocks this unit forsale.
Is there other units on the market that would suit this vehicle.
All advice appreciated with thanks.
Reply By: joc45 - Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 21:03
Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 21:03
I had one fitted to my old GQ diesel, it was great.
Now have one fitted to my GU and fine also.
Problem:
You have to fix magnets to the tailshaft - this presents two problems;
1. The magnets are prone to coming off. I used the wire provided, but also aradited them and the wire to the tailshaft and no further problems (scrape paint off tailshaft first).
2. On really rough roads, the tailshaft shakes quite a bit, and if the pickup coil is too far away from the magnets, the signal can drop out. If too close, the magnets hit the coil.
I fixed this on the GU by using the signal from the speedo sensor and halving the frequency, but this required a bit of electronics. Have the circuit if you want it, but will have to email the docs.
Gerry
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Follow Up By: peter - Sunday, Aug 24, 2003 at 12:07
Sunday, Aug 24, 2003 at 12:07
Thanks joc for the info,Ithink I'll order one and give it a go,I'll see how the magnets go, araditing should do the trick.
regards Peter.
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Follow Up By: joc45 - Sunday, Aug 24, 2003 at 12:22
Sunday, Aug 24, 2003 at 12:22
Another trick worth doing is to fit a cutout switch on the clutch (like the one on the brake pedal) to disable the cc when changing gears. This stops the possibility of over-revving the diesel if taken out of gear. The clucth switch also allows you to disable the CC without touching the brake pedal and bringing on the brake lights.
I used a micro-switch (avail from Jaycar, Altronics) and a bit of jiggery pokery to fit it to the cluch pedal. You will need a single pole double throw switch to wire it into the brake pedal switch circuit.
I believe the CC company can provide a suitable switch at extra cost (about $50 - seemed a bit exy to me).
Check the paperwork with the kit for info.
Otherwise I can email the info. gerron@bigpond.net.au
Gerry
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Follow Up By: uppy - Sunday, Aug 24, 2003 at 14:34
Sunday, Aug 24, 2003 at 14:34
ive got a 4.2 patrol efi petrol ,and we are looking at instoring a cc in our truck . is it much of a job
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Follow Up By: joc45 - Sunday, Aug 24, 2003 at 15:18
Sunday, Aug 24, 2003 at 15:18
Not sure about the location of the throttle control on the efi, but shouldn't be a problem.
I installed the CC servo on the inside wall of the rh wheel arch, near the brake servo. The CC servo has a bowden cable about 500mm long which then connects to the throttle control. A kit is provided with all manner of linkages, etc to fit just about any carbie/efi/injector pump throttle control. It's all pretty easy, and a video is provided, but you just need to take a bit of time to decide which options are best for your vehicle, given the available bits they provide.
Somewhere under the front seats you will find a rubber bung thru to the underside of the vehicle; use this to feed the wiring for the speed sensor pickup. On my GQ, I mounted the pickup on a braket attached to the tubular cross-member, but on the GU, I attached the bracket to the underside of the floor.
Gerry
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigbear - Monday, Aug 25, 2003 at 15:10
Monday, Aug 25, 2003 at 15:10
Hi Gerry
Ihave a CC on my patrol but was not able to work out how to do the clutch cut out wirng. Could you email the wiring diagram too please.
Bush Bappo's 4WD Club
Get out there & have a look
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Follow Up By: joc45 - Monday, Aug 25, 2003 at 22:35
Monday, Aug 25, 2003 at 22:35
Hi Bigbear,
Not sure how to email you directly. Drop me a line on gerron@bigpond.net.au
Gerry
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Reply By: joc45 - Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 21:04
Saturday, Aug 23, 2003 at 21:04
I had one fitted to my old GQ diesel, it was great.
Now have one fitted to my GU and fine also.
Problem:
You have to fix magnets to the tailshaft - this presents two problems;
1. The magnets are prone to coming off. I used the wire provided, but also aradited them and the wire to the tailshaft and no further problems (scrape paint off tailshaft first).
2. On really rough roads, the tailshaft shakes quite a bit, and if the pickup coil is too far away from the magnets, the signal can drop out. If too close, the magnets hit the coil.
I fixed this on the GU by using the signal from the speedo sensor and halving the frequency, but this required a bit of electronics. Have the circuit if you want it, but will have to email the docs.
Gerry
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Reply By: Hatcher - Monday, Aug 25, 2003 at 11:53
Monday, Aug 25, 2003 at 11:53
Hi Peter,
I fitted one to my old 4Runner and it worked extremely
well. The only problems I found was after I installed it, it would not engage at speeds over 60Km/h. This turned out to be too many magnets on the tail shaft. The manual suggests fitting two, and the kit supplies three, but I ended up getting it to work with only one. The second problem was that after about 6000k's the bracket holding the sensor sheared off completely right at the 90 deg bend. It was lucky that I had crawled under the truck to
check for oil leaks after a long trip and saw the sensor with half a bracket dangling in the breeze. Could be expensive to lose a sensor so I would recommend using a stronger piece of steel bent to replace the supplied bracket. Apart from that I would not hesitate in using the AP-50.
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