Broome... Native title decision

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BROOME NATIVE TITLE DECISION..

An in-principle agreement to resolve native title and heritage issues in Broome has been struck between The State Government and the Yawuru people, Attorney General Christian Porter has announced.

Mr Porter said the agreement would ensure the prompt development of WA’s foremost tourist town.

“This Government has put much effort into resolving outstanding Native Title issues such as this because the ability to reach final decisions is for the betterment of all people of Western Australia,” he said.

“The agreement will facilitate the release of land for housing, commercial development and infrastructure, and will ensure that development in Broome can proceed unimpeded for decades to come.

“At the same time Aboriginal heritage will be protected and the traditional owners will be properly compensated for the extinguishment of their native title rights and interests in the land, as is their right under the law.”

Three years ago, the Federal Court ruled that the Yawuru people held native title rights and interests in relation to Broome and surrounding areas.

As native title holders, they had the right to negotiate future developments and to receive State Government compensation for acts affecting their native title.

The final agreement is expected to be reached by June and will include two Indigenous Land Use Agreements, which would be submitted to the National Native Title Tribunal for registration.

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Reply By: Jedo_03 - Wednesday, Apr 15, 2009 at 20:21

Wednesday, Apr 15, 2009 at 20:21
"as is their right under the law."
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 15, 2009 at 20:32

Wednesday, Apr 15, 2009 at 20:32
I guess the point i was making was it is not about the land.. Michael
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Wednesday, Apr 15, 2009 at 21:08

Wednesday, Apr 15, 2009 at 21:08
Sorry Michael, but which part was your point?

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Reply By: ross - Wednesday, Apr 15, 2009 at 21:26

Wednesday, Apr 15, 2009 at 21:26
So Michael, what was the original reason why they were forced off their land?
Im quite sure the graziers didnt take it for the fresh air.
Now ,the latest wave of devellopers want it for "housing and infrastructure"

They have had these rights aince the Mabo decision
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Reply By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Wednesday, Apr 15, 2009 at 21:48

Wednesday, Apr 15, 2009 at 21:48
we all have to expect to grow some time and we need the land to be developed so we can expand and commercialise and make some money ( tourism etc . with the new gas hub ) this does benifit all . including those over east , they get the majority of our (wa) mining royalties
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 15, 2009 at 21:49

Wednesday, Apr 15, 2009 at 21:49
I guess we all have different views on many aspects of these decisions and the many many millions of dollars of taxpayers money that is poured in yearly that seems to go nowhere. Michael
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Wednesday, Apr 15, 2009 at 21:53

Wednesday, Apr 15, 2009 at 21:53
I was always told that, if taxpayers money is spent, someone has to earn it. What goes round comes round.

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Follow Up By: slammin - Wednesday, Apr 15, 2009 at 22:24

Wednesday, Apr 15, 2009 at 22:24
Michael, the tax payers money for the most part goes straight back to tax payers, where did you think the money went? The aboriginals invested it in Swiss bank accounts?

The money actually goes to public servants and their bureaucrats, tradesmen, store managers, outside employees and local non indigenous communities.

If the money actually went to indigenous infrastructure and employment, education programs a lot of these problems wouldn't exist.

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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 08:49

Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 08:49
Slammin,

Have a read of This

The money does actually go into the remote communities in the form of improvements to infrastructure, employment and education programs. I was in the Army and did a heap of these locations.

I think this year they are doing the Mapoon community near Weipa

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Follow Up By: ross - Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 09:10

Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 09:10
Sounds like something Pauine Pantsdown would come out with
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Follow Up By: slammin - Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:27

Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:27
Kev, I have lived in NT communities Top End and Central desert for the past 10 years and visited a heap along the way. I can assure you that very precious little of any funding ends up where it was intended. There is a whole industry based on earning the indigenous funding. I am bound by legal agreements so I can't go into details but I would point out Fiona Stanleys research estimated only 10% of govt' funding makes it to "the ground".

There is a whole industry based around indigenous funding and as I said [QUOTE]The money actually goes to public servants and their bureaucrats, tradesmen, store managers, outside employees and local non indigenous communities [/QUOTE] Consider how many reports into the problems there are and how much action is acheived.

We still have an average of 14 people per 3 bedroom house across the NT. I have employees who have to wake up at 4.30 am so they can fit into their allocated shower time and make it to work in time. And when I say work I don't mean a fulltime paying job.

My point was and is the successfull programs are few and far between. If there was more successes there would be less problems, eh.
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 13:05

Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 13:05
I agree 100% with your comments.

A lot of the blokes I was with in the Army hated doing those jobs, I personally loved doing it as it got me to remote locations for extended periods and we were helping out fellow Aussies.

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Follow Up By: slammin - Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 14:09

Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 14:09
Spot on Kev,

The successes need to be sung out loud and clear. Every skill that is passed on is another step in the ladder.

As for Michael, walk a mile in their shoes and see if you'd survive.
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 14:16

Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 14:16
When we were working out there it was a 2 way street in the way of skills exchange. My most enjoyable job was at Yarralin and Lingara.
We actaully had the people who were going to get the house we were building work with us to build it so they had a sense of ownership of the house. From what I have been told these are some of the few houses that have actually been looked after.

I must get back there one day to see it for myself.

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Reply By: Member - Kroozer (WA) - Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 01:24

Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 01:24
This idiot has no idea what he is talking about and no idea of the issues of this local area. How is this post in anyway relevant to the Exploroz issues. Just trying fuel a racist debate. You have no idea what its about, as Money has nothing to do with it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Dennis P (Scotland) - Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 01:41

Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 01:41
My thoughts exactly!

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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Thoughtfully- Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 23:05

Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 23:05
I think Land rights are as much a part of Exploroz as lots of other things, after all you travel on the land like you use your Engel to cool your meat.

Kroozer, your post here is the only one that is inappropriate in my opinion.
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Reply By: jezza68 - Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 14:28

Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 14:28
Some more food for thought to those criticising the Broome native Title Settlement.
Broome had reached its residential development limits. Which has seen Median house prices rise from $185,000 in 2001 to above $800,000 in 2008. As a result the median rent price is now hovering at $700/wk for a basic 3 bed home. As a result many of those employees we take for granted whilst on holidays, Checkout Operators, Barman and Waitresses could not afford to rent in Broome. The situation meant that those of us holidaying in Broome were being met with exhorbitant prices for entertainment and other services to cover the high wage cost to keep employees.
The government were trying to avoid the housing cost blowout as in the Pilbara. Now Broome will have an extra 10,000 homesites which should bring around more competition in the rental market. Also the extra building opportunities will encourage large project builders to come to town and create more competition for better value housing and better transport costs.
Those of you attracted to this website will be aware of the developers hunger to buy up Caravan Parks to convert them into exclusive homesites. Now at least the current shortage of park sites will be expanded with cheaper land. Also now the high costs of Broome which detered many Grey Nomads from staying during the dry will be arrested.
Basically veryone wins
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Reply By: Member - Kroozer (WA) - Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 22:03

Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 22:03
I ask you again, how is this post in anyway relevant to Exploroz. May the moderators answer that question please? Or do they agree with this sort of attitude.
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 22:49

Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 22:49
Kroozer Hi

If you think this post needs moderating or removing, use the "Alert Moderator" button at the bottom of the post.

by replying to the post you just increase the hits.

Cheers

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I agree with you, it should not be posted on this site
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Thoughtfully- Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 23:07

Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 23:07
I think Land rights are as much a part of Exploroz as lots of other things, after all you travel on the land like you use your Engel to cool your meat.

I reckon that this is a healthy debate and quite informative and balanced. Don't try to drag it down of you feel you are not equipped to discuss such things in a civilised manner.

I know the mods are keeping a close eye on this and that it is still here indicates their view on it.
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 23:16

Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 23:16
Thats the thing Bonz, there's no debate from Michael, he just copied and pasted something just to get a reaction. (me thinks)

Not to have a health debate as you would like, Kev and slammin are doing quite well and seem well informed on the matter.

I think you will find that the way it was posted is what offends some people

with deepest Regards

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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Thoughtfully- Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 23:21

Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 23:21
Its very interesting how this threads developed Richard, as you know I have more than a passing interest in what happens here and I have been watching and learning from this thread. Whatever Michael's intentions were, this thread hasn't gone down the dirt road that others have. Thats great I reckon, I would rather read about this than see a "This thread has been moderated" reference.

Maybe we are maturing? I will shoot thru a note to the Modsquad to review the first line of the post with Michael and see where it goes.

Your regards are appreciated. One day we should shake hands.

Regards to you and yours

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Follow Up By: Member - Kroozer (WA) - Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 23:52

Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 23:52
Have alerted moderator, they couldnt care less. Michaels comments are that is about money as he says in his follow up to his first comment. I am very closely linked to this case and i can tell you right now that he has no idea what he is on about.
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