Cruiser Turbo after market

Submitted: Tuesday, Apr 21, 2009 at 20:53
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Hi All

I am finding it very hard to find a TD cruiser in my price range and i am looking for some options.

I could look at purchasing a cruiser 4.2D say 2005 /6/7 and fit a turbo to it.
Question is :

I need some opinions on fitting after market turbos and some things to consider and possibility the best units to buy
( somebody said to me today that possibly Safari is a good one to consider????) and any other info that would help in my decision.

I will be pulling a caravan and looking at travelling up the Northwest , also do a lot of camping /off road stuff.

Any info would be appreciated

Gazza
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Reply By: Gazza57 - Tuesday, Apr 21, 2009 at 21:07

Tuesday, Apr 21, 2009 at 21:07
I suppose i should have added how would a prado TD equate with all this , is it worth considering ???? the 4 cylinder does worry me a bit???????

Cheers
Gazza
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Reply By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Tuesday, Apr 21, 2009 at 21:59

Tuesday, Apr 21, 2009 at 21:59
Fitting a turbo to the 1HZ will transform it.They go great.But you will hear of problems.Cracking heads, pistons and blowing g/boxes are the common ones.
I took this into account when we did ours.But useing the g/box carefully, keep temps. down and it'll go a long way to giving it a long life.
Have the engine checked before fitment, have the injectors and pump recoed, valves adjusted, comp. test and make sure the cooling system is ok.
Then after, have the pump tuned and timed, fit an EGT gauge to moniter temps and if money prevails, fit an Intercooler.
You may need to upgrade to a H/D clutch too, oh yeah, have a bigger exhaust fitted, at least 2 1/2".
You will be looking around $10000 to do the lot(tune, turbo, I/C,clutch, EGT gauge, pump/inj work) take this into account.
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Reply By: hotfishez - Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:42

Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:42
I had dts turbo on my 1HZ 80 series. The cruiser was dynoed before and after it went on and tuned accordingly. The aftermarket is great for towing, beach work and where the power is required down low. I have just last month aquired a 1hdt factory turbo and naturally done the engine change.
The cost of the DTS Kit is just under $2600 supplied only. If you are interested I am selling mine for $2300 ono including a desert cooler full ally radiator. The turbo will fit a 1hz, I dont know if the radiator will fit. It has done just under 50k on the engine.

If you do go ahead with a aftermarket turbo, get a
EGT(Pyrometer), the VDO kit is Available from Coventrys for around $280.00. You can continually monitor your exhaust temp and the first defense against any engine damage or failure.

All up it cost under $4000 Including the desert cooler radiator, beau desert exhaust and bits and pieces. It was installed by a mate who ows a 4wd shop so there was no labour on the install.
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Reply By: Member - Chris & Debbie (QLD) - Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:55

Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:55
Hi Gazza

I have just fitted a Denco system to my 1HZ 80series. I purchased the complete setup from ARB including 2.5" mandrel bent exhaust. Very well put together package, fitted it myself with the only problem being the tail pipe, which did not fit properly due to the 170ltr long range tank.
All up cost in the end including gauges and dyno, $3500.

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Reply By: Member - DAC (TAS) - Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 17:34

Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 17:34
Gazza,
I had a brand new Safari Turbo professionally fitted to a brand new 1999 Diesel cruiser. Turbo was tuned at new, 25,000km & 50,000km & was operating well within specs. Car was serviced every 5,000km. Engine blew up at 65,000km (just going up a hill not towing anything!) with both only 3 months out of warranty. Safari didnt want to talk to me. How many Toyota deisel engines have you seen blow up at 65,000kms. Make up your own mind on this one!!!
Cheers
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 21:28

Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 21:28
"engine blew up" is a highly overused and contorted expression which says nothing unfortunately. People use it for everything from leaking radiator cap to exploded to pieces.
Bit unfair to expect or imply fault without being a wee bit more specific.

And I have to say that after 3 years 3 months and 65000k's, it would have to be a very obvious oversight/fault on their part for it to be attributable to the installation.
So obvious that there shouldnt be a problem going to consumer affairs?
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Reply By: troopy 2005 - Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 18:43

Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 18:43
save your money and get a factory one.
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Reply By: Cairns Offroad Training & Tours - Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 19:04

Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 19:04
What is your price range? I have a 11/02 Turbo 5 speed auto in immaculate condition all books and lots of extras 0402329372 if your interested. The factory turbos are stronger and more economical than after market. I know, I have had both. Cheers Rob
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Reply By: Davo_60 - Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 19:12

Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 19:12
Gazza,

If the only reason for going with an aftermarket is to save money on the purchase then I don't think you will save that much and the factory turbos are fantastic compared to an aftermarket kit on a 1hz. For the money you save you have a diesel with a turbo that it wasn't designed for and a gearbox that is not designed to handle the extra power. If you are doing it because you would like the live axle cruiser then that is really the only way you can do it other than an 80 series. Plenty go well with no dramas but it is not uncommon to end up with a cracked head or pre-combustion chambers and overheating issues - not always but some do. Then it can be expensive. My experience with aftermarket turbo diesels is that you do need all the gauges (such as egt) and watch them carefully most of the time so that you don't over cook things. The factory turbo you can drive flat out all day without any problems. If you are towing, can't beat the factory TD's. And it is a very sweet engine. The live axle aftermarket turbo 1hz's make a very capably vehicle for sure and I am just relaying my experiences.

Cheers,
Dave
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Reply By: fisho64 - Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 21:31

Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 21:31
Id have to agree with Gazzo, while the aftermarket turbo is a huge improvement, it isnt a substitute for the factory turbo 1HD-FTE and 5 speed auto. Personally havent come across an engine failure nor a 5 sp auto failure?
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 21:33

Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 21:33
sorry make that Davo!

Remember also that resale will be compromised selling the aftermarket turbo, and improved with the 1HD-FTE
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 21:39

Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 21:39
You have stated everything except your budget which could make all the difference as to recommendations as some good TD GXLS going in the high 30s if you look around.

Cheers I love my 05 factory TD with a chip and a 3" exhaust it flies and pulls a van beautifully.





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Reply By: kiwicol - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 18:43

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 18:43
Talk to a reputable engine rebuild company not the local mechanic, you will find the truths there about blown motors, which ever brand. Col
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