trading 05 D4D hilux for DID triton

Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 21:06
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I am trading my 05 D4D hilux for a new DID Triton any one done this?
On test drive it goes harder than Hilux. The Triton now has constant 4WD as well, the first ute to do so.
What are your thoughts?
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Reply By: Mark S (cns) - Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 21:36

Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 21:36
Now this will be interesting. Brace yourself, you may have just opened up a can of whop-ass!! Trading a d4d Hilux for a new Triton is just not the done thing to do on this site, and would be a hard pill to swallow for many.....
Good on you I say.
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 22:14

Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 22:14
Gaday Mark. The days of Hilux superiority in the light ute range has long gone. All the makes are very close in both features & performance & I'd say the Triton overall has edged ahead leaving the Toyota looking a fair bit over priced. With some common failures occuring their unbrakable image is slipping too.
Cheers Craig............
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Follow Up By: Mark S (cns) - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:12

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:12
Gidday Craig
spot on - totally agree
cheers
Mark
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Reply By: landed eagle - Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 22:24

Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 22:24
G'day Dazza

I recently bought the Triton GLX/R

Test drove all the others too. Load space isn't quite as good as couple of the others, but for me, I needed rear seat comfort for a couple of teens. They had a BIG say in which one was the best. Triton flogged all the others as far as they were concerned.

I agree with you about the performance. They go like stink.
I went from a '94 Falcon Wagon to Triton. So obviously its going to be a luxury sports car for a while. :))))

The kids call it Misterbishi.


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Follow Up By: landed eagle - Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 22:28

Wednesday, Apr 22, 2009 at 22:28
I might add that I was towing a Jayco Eagle with the Falcon. Had to tow the Eagle to the yard as a trade/deposit on my new Expanda Outback that should be here late May.
The Ford towed it great, but the Triton didn't even know it was on the back.

come on May! come on May! come on May!
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Reply By: ben_gv3 - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 00:54

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 00:54
Not that it means much to the grand scheme of things, but the Defender 130 is the first ute to have constant 4WD.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 08:14

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 08:14
Yeah that's about all it has...oh and it is the 1st to self lubricate the outside of the drivetrain if you know what I mean...LOL
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Follow Up By: GoneTroppo Member (FNQ) - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 08:21

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 08:21
Ben that's not a very fair comment, the 130 came out 15 years ago, and at least 5 or more years before that there was a 110 ute with constant 4wd.

You have to give Jap manuafcturers about 20 years to catch on, to suggest anything else is just not acceptable here.
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Reply By: Member - Broe (WA) - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:20

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:20
I have just bought the new hilux. Why you may ask? I, like you, balked at the price of the Hilux, so how did I come to my decision? My partner is in the car industry and so when looking at vehicles, she and I did alot of research. The one main thing that got me was reliability. Ok, there are problems with the Hilux, as is with all vehicles, it also has a small towing capacity (2,250kg), but the current model has been around for a while and what sold me was that we spoke to a friend who runs a hire car franchise (AVIS) and supplies a lot of vehicles to the mining industry. Due to invested capital, he went and bought an entire fleet of Tritons. Now, when buying a couple of hundred vehicles, he saved a snot load of money, but, add repair bills to all these vehicles as they get thrashed on the mines, he sits about $1,500 per vehicle in front of a Hilux when he had them as a fleet (2005-2006 stock). So, it makes sense to him. For me, only owning one vehicle, and doing outback touring, this wasn't satisfactory enough as I don't have a team of diesel fitters etc on hand. The Nissan has had too many bad reviews, the Colorado and the Ford, well let's not go there, and that leaves the Mazda. Didn't do too much research into the Mazda but have heard some pretty good reviews though I just wasn't willing to take the risk on something that I knew little about.

I hope this helps. $50,000 (or $40,000 odd) is a pretty expensive mistake to make.


Broe
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:56

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:56
I'm with you Broe, very wise words. The Triton may make more power and be a little cheaper but I don't believe is in the same class as the Hilux when it comes to build quality/reliability. I like the Triton but the ute space is very poor, so whats the point.?

At the end of the day the Hilux continues to be the biggest selling vehicle in Australia, now only behind the Commodore.! That speaks huge volumes to me, so buy the Triton if you want to be different.?

Would I trade my Hilux for one, not in my life..!
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Follow Up By: Member - Broe (WA) - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:13

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:13
Another one to look at too is the usable power. Hilux is down on torque compared to the others but I have pulled the skin off of a ST-X (nissan) even though it had 70 Nm more torque, purely because so much more of it is at hand. We were both towing a car trailer which each had 5 lengths of old wharf square beam about 6m long, total weight would have been about 2 tonne. We were pulling up Welspool Road hill and as we bantered each other over the 2-way, the Hilux slowly but steadily pulled away. Didn't kill it mind you but it did pull away.

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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:21

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:21
Yes specs like torque can be misleading because it's where the torque is made is more important, like low down. No use having 70nm more if it's at 4000rpm.

The new Navara is only a 2.5 litre vs the Hilux 3.0 litre, yet on paper the Navara has more power, well RPM comes into play to achieve this and high revving small capacity diesels isn't a pleasant experience, NVH (Noise , Vibration, Harshness).

I haven't driven the new updated Hilux, I have the 2005 first gen and I am more than satisfied with the power.
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Follow Up By: Member - Broe (WA) - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:29

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:29
If you have an '05 then you have the same as the thread poster Dazza. I don't believe there is any difference except the interior, bluetooth built in (works a treat), cruise control (a must have), 6 stack etc. They have an awesome dash and the trip computer works a treat till you put in a long range tank though usage still works. The only think disappointing is the IFS which they all have instead of a solid axle front end, and the old school temp and a/c controls, though once they are set it really isn't that much of a hindrance.

With the economy the way it is too you can really screw down Toyota if indeed you do need to update. For me, if I was Dazza, I would be spending a little bit of coin on the 05 D4D, even if it was 5-7k and you will have something that will be bullet proof out in the desert.

My 2 cents worth done.


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Follow Up By: Isuzumu - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:56

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:56
I did not see any of the other diesel utes in front of the Isuzu D-Max in the Dakar. hahahahahahaha
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Follow Up By: Mark S (cns) - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 13:19

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 13:19
Now, Now, Bruce, the Hilux crowd was just starting to feel good about their vehicles, after hearing that someone would do something so unthinkable as to trade one for a Triton:-)
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 13:36

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 13:36
The Dakar Bruce..? You need smaller wheels on your rig man, looks like a steam roller..! LOL
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Follow Up By: dazza0503 - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 19:14

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 19:14
Funny you mention Dakar, my brother in law built and drove that D Max Bruce Garland.
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Follow Up By: Isuzumu - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 20:42

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 20:42
Got to be a nice fellow with a name like Bruce and drives an Isuzu hahaha
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Follow Up By: Markymark - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 23:17

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 23:17
Broe the Ford is a re-badged Mazda, so anything you have heard about the Ford applies to it too. Speaking to a mechanic last week who has friends at Mazda, they go like a cut cat but the clutches and gearboxes are having trouble with the power. Don't know about the auto's.

Cheers,

Mark.
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Reply By: baza - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 15:56

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 15:56
I'm looking at dual cabs at the moment. Will most likely end up with a Hilux, as I was just informed I can't lease a Triton as it has a payload of greater that 1 tonne. Some good deals on the Triton at the moment to (booo to the tax man!!)
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Reply By: Member - Netnut (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 21:58

Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 21:58
Hello Dazza,
Go the Hilux ! Sales figure show that people respect the brand for many reasons.

Following extensive research throughout 2005-2006, I bought a new 2006 D4D SR5 DC Hilux ute.

1) I know I can get parts for it almost anywhere because of the extensive dealer network.

2) I expect to get good resale value for it when I buy something else in a few year's time. I owned an NG Pajero. I was shocked at the poor resale of the Pajero; a hard lesson learned. Since then I have stuck with Toyotas.

3) I bought it because it produces its peak torque at lower revs (1450 RPM) than the Nissan STX (2000 RPM). It has abundant power as well !

4) The current Hilux is about 5 years old and still looks very modern.

Of course, if money's no problem ......... buy whatever you prefer. The latest Triton is a good product, according to motoring reviewers.

Cheers,
Netnut
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Reply By: bbuzz - Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 21:47

Friday, Apr 24, 2009 at 21:47
Is the D4D in the Hilux the same one in the Prado that is behaving badly after about 30k to 50k? Some injector problem?
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