O/T I know this is an unpopular subject for some, but

would it be safer to leave it in the car?

if not I guess using a lockable rifle case secured to the camper would be the next best thing

for starters I would look at the relevent laws. From memory there prett grey/non existant in that area

I used to keep my pistols in a locked tool box under the bed of my camper bolted to the floor
Conealment is the key while crims know exactly where to find stuff - if they see it chances are they will steal it regardless of te measures you have inplace

I believe locked or unlocked your firearms should never leave your sight when travelling. Quiet easy for them to replace the bolt. I would hate to lose my rifle. The car would be the best spot, locked in a safe thats bolted to the floor. I could never leave my firearm anywhere, but at home in its safe. Where will you be stowing its ammo, hopefully somewhere safe, yet easy to grab incase of fire. Dont want bullets firing off through the caravan parks while your away after some little bleep couldnt steal from it so he lights it up. Surely if you disassemble rifle it could be stowed in car along with ammo in a box under the seat or something.
I am no way against your actions here mate, just alot of things to consider with firearms so that, we/us the responsible ones dont lose our privilige of owning firearms. I believe that by posting this thread you are after a safe, secure and foolproof storage idea. Good luck and i am sure someone will come along and help you out. (and i bet you will get the normal negative posts that come with this subject.)
Good luck mate

Transport is generally covered by each State legislature --See here.

Its a shame that society is the way it is today .... both the thieves and the paranoid.

Otherwise you could just leave the things padlocked to the window mounts like we used to be able to do ......

Just use a secure lockbox with a number of different securing types ... bolts - allenkey heads/torquescrew variations ... Not likely anybody would have the needed combination of tools to get all of them undone.

Also use a covered padlock system such as that used on shipping containers et ... cant get the bolt cutters onto the lock shank that way.

All a PITA ... but as use of the items is restricted to approved, diminishing locations .... you wont need to get it out all that often .....

I should have mentioned also, that I’m considering asking the manufacture to create a hidden section, but there’s $$$$ involved in that.

Anyway I’ll speak to him early next week and get a quote on the extra work, and how it could be done.

Regards

Kim

Why not lock the rifle in the car. I do and according to Qld. laws that is OK. Bolt and ammo in seperate locked container.

You only have to satisfy the laws, if it gets ripped off notify the police.
YOU haven't broken the law, the slimeball that took your car is the criminal !!!

Securely locked case (preferably steel) bolted to the chassis should suffice as long as it is fitted out of sight. Just make sure that you have always good (verifiable) explanation why you need the firearm on a trip – personal protection is not acceptable and can cost you your licence.
Cheers

Kim

Go down to the secondhand shop and buy a guitar case and put the rifle in there and leave it in your camper. Just in case someone should decide to take a peek inside then wire the metal locking clip to the camper battery and that should deter anyone breaking in, big time :-)

Alternatively. Get a steel fabricator to make a steel box that could be welded or bolted to the chassis of the camper underneath the floor somewhere with access to the rifle from inside the camper.

Or leave the bloody thing at home and rest easy!...lol


Cheers

Definitely not an "unpopular subject" to me.

Remember to use trigger locks. That way you don't have to take the bolt out (according to Tasmanian laws anyway). I think you can keep anyone busy with trigger locks! Unless they are very well prepared and take off the trigger guard. Usually they're just looking for a quick steal. But (according to law) you have to take "all" precautions. I would use a lockable metal box that is concealed in some way where people normally don't (or wouldn't think) of looking, like inside a cavity somewhere? You have to temporarily think like a criminal in order to fool them. That way you'll see who'll make the mistake first =)

Cheers.

Just a thought.

Technically, when is a firearm a firearm. That is, if it does not have a bolt is it still a fire arm ?

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Thread 68460 talks about insurance of contents in vehicles.
I have 10 guns and RACQ covered them as contents of the car when we moved to Cairns.
Maybe worth considering when travelling with a firearm in a camper trailer.

G'day Kim

Myself and like most above I always travel with mine in the vehicle and believe thats the safest place, IMO as long as you have it in a lockable compartment weather in a trailer or car, It is the same as your gun safe at home.

Cheers

hi Kim - not sure of the layout of your particular camper van but
I would have a steel box with its own lockable lid/access door, fit that below a hinged timber access door in floor (even line the back and/or front of the timber access door with steel if you want) and fit a false floor above that. Position this under the floor level so that you access it through the seat box, then the false floor, access panel then steel box door. Just fit the steel box below the floor to the chassis etc - it doesnt have to be all that deep so from below it wouldnt be noticable, paint it to match below deck or if it sits beside water tank just have the bash plate from water tank extended to cover both so no one knows its there. There may even be something purpose built from gun shop/supplier that you could use for this purpose.

Depending on size needed you may even be able to do it above floor but in the seat box. Hope this gets you started, cheers

Gday Kim,
Any thing you can fabricate, can be dismantled....All you ned to do is be covered by law and make it hard for the bastards!
A decent piece of RHS with one end caped and the other with a door on will do the job. Bolt it inside you camper and put a dob of weld on the nuts once its in.....the only way they can get it out is with a grinder.

Cheers
Hairy

G'day Kim
How would NP officials know you had a firearm in the car if it was safely stored out of sight? They do not conduct random vehicle searches so unless they can see it or you tell them they will not know. If the storage box is visible surely you can throw some clothes, towels etc over it.
Cheers from the Moose.

Thanks for your advice fellas.

I now have some very good ideas.

Regards

Kim