Hema navigator

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I have been looking at the purchase of the Hema Navigator in Perth, but so many variations in prices : Starts at 990 and 950 and 895 and finally 880 I wonder why? $880 looks like a bargain !
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Reply By: Gramps - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 20:43

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 20:43
Probably not selling as well as expected in the current climate. If there was a strong demand, why would retailers cut their profit margin ?

Bargain hard for an even better deal.



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Reply By: Peter McG (Member, Melbourne) - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 20:49

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 20:49
An equivalent GPS can be as low as $149 (Aldi next week) and the maps are about $140 from the EO shop so the Hema package should really be about $400.

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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 21:07

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 21:07
Er, it has a bit more than that. From the website:

Hema 4WD track data, speed and red light cameras, OziExplorer and Memory Map Moving Map Software, and 1:250K topographical maps.
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 21:11

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 21:11
... and Route66 street nav
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Follow Up By: KennyBWilson - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 21:26

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 21:26
"... and Route66 street nav"

from what I hear Route66 isn't very good

Still don't think Hema is worth $900 +

You can buy a cheap Garmin Nuvi 250 for about $200 and buy a cheap unit that runs WinCe from $200 then you can run 2 units at the same time
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Follow Up By: Peter McG (Member, Melbourne) - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 21:45

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 21:45
Mine has all of this. You can set them up to run street nav programs
and OziCE.

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Follow Up By: Mr Pointyhead - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 08:24

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 08:24
It is very true that you can configure various PND's to run Oziexplorer. I myself use a IPAQ 312. However remember that with the Hema Navigator you are paying for a device where all the configuration work has been done for you to get Ozi etc working.

On the other hand if you are willing to hack a device yourself you can get similar features to a Hema Navigator for less than $500, including purchasing software and map licenses
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Reply By: troopyman - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 21:33

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 21:33
or garmin nuvi 255w + topo australia map for $575
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 22:00

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 22:00
I haven't looked closely at the pricing but this new one looks to have the goods:

http://www.vms4x4.com/

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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 22:11

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 22:11
GB, that is NavNGo, Igo 8 too for the street navigation just looking at the closeups. That is the Prince of systems that I have in my dash. Note with a capital 'P'. Really good.

Note that VMS have been doing the Hema too before this. I have taken issue with them on the Memory Map software which is like a super LITE Ozi version 1
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Reply By: Member - Longtooth (SA) - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 22:15

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 22:15
Have a look at the SEEKA from the Map Shop in Adelaide. It can be customised to suit your requirements and not necessarily as displayed on the web site illustration. Also is about $100 cheaper if you have Natmap Raster already. I liked it so much I bought one! Reckon it's the duck's guts.
http://mapshop.net.au/msnindex.html
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Follow Up By: Member - Frogman (WA) - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 23:30

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 23:30
Such a great site with many answers and peoples keen to help..Will have a close look at VSM looks very interesting. That was my first post so thanks to you all .
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Follow Up By: Member - Frogman (WA) - Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 23:32

Sunday, May 03, 2009 at 23:32
I mean VMS 4x4...
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 00:19

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 00:19
I had a look at the SEEKA website. It looks very interesting.

At last, a decent size screen. These things are advancing at a rapid rate.

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Follow Up By: Peter McG (Member, Melbourne) - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 08:34

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 08:34
The unit that SEEKA have is the same as sold from Ebay for about $300. Again, its very simple to setup OziCE.

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Reply By: Sigmund - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 06:38

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 06:38
As always with the Hema Navigator people bag the price.

Retail prices on the s/w separately are

Oziexplorer $130
250k maps c. $100
HEMA 4WD $179
Route66 $189
Memory Map s/w ??

Then there's the intangibles of having them all pre-installed and having a local and ready source of upgrades and support.

I don't carry a candle for the Navigator. I don't have one as I don't need its capabilities. But a fair evaluation would compare like with like.
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Follow Up By: KennyBWilson - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 10:28

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 10:28
many on here already purchased Oziexplorer and 250K maps previouesly but the Ozi Ce is only $40 Running Garmin Mobile XT is cheaper than Route66 and works better
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Follow Up By: Bob of KAOS - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 14:01

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 14:01
Sigmund

I totally agree.

Considering the base cost of a Mio, and I doubt Hema would get the same deal as Harvey Norman, the $880 is a bargain. Allowing for the cost of the software and mapping licences, and a reasonable profit margin for Hema and the retailer then what they charge seems eminently reasonable.

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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 15:16

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 15:16
Hi - true but make sure you use the right prices ...

OziexplorerCe is (as mentioned above) $40
250K maps are included in the Hema 4wd Map package - so no need to re-purchase these. Many unlockable units (eg Mio/Navman) already have city navigator style software installed so no need to specifically purchased Route 66 in most cases (plus Im not sure it would be the best choice anyway). Memory Map software is installed on the HN but my understanding is that no actual useable maps are included - you have to purchase these separately. Looks like a marketing ploy more than anything else – Hema possibly get payed by MM to put it on there.

So example
Mio Moov (includes street Nav software) - $260
OziCE - $40
Hema (inlcudes all Hema maps and 250K maps) - $179

= $479

This is why people justifiably bag the price of HN.
Other issue I see is that the "normal" version of OziCe has more features than the HN version (HN doesn’t use a windows mobile operating system), though I suppose they will offer an update at some stage of the game. Not saying HN is bad choice despite its "higher than one would expect" price. Suits perfectly those with the dosh and no desire to mess with unlocking similar devices - some value in that as well.

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Reply By: chisel - Monday, May 04, 2009 at 22:28

Monday, May 04, 2009 at 22:28
Does the hema include a full (PC version) copy of OziExplorer as well as the (OziCE) version on the unit?
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 00:25

Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 00:25
No - just a "special" version of OziCE. They recommend you just use the free demo version of Ozi PC as that has sufficent features to keep you happy until you decide you need full version.

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