NP Pajero 40mm lift which is best.

Submitted: Monday, May 04, 2009 at 23:14
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Need to pick the Pajero owners brains.
I have a NP Exceed DID and I want to lift and increase the load carrying capacity .I have a long ranger fuel tank ,removable draws in the rear.Standard ally Bull bar.Just don't want to get caught with the wrong combination.
I tow a camper trailer (CUB) so don't want the head lights blinding on coming cars either.Any info would be appreciated.

Cheers Scoof . :-)
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Reply By: psproule - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 06:04

Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 06:04
Collective wisdom at Pajeroclub forum is either Lovells springs and Bilestien shocks (HD or EHD rear springs depending on load), or the ARB OME kit. The latter I have no experience with however it is regarded as having excellent ride where other lifts can make the vehicle a bit stiff and harsh. Polyairs can also help with load levelling.

Kings springs are a cheaper option but many (including myself) have experienced disappointment when fresh prings have sagged fairly quickly.

Cheers - Pat
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Reply By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 08:03

Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 08:03
Just a reminder, putting new springs and shocks in will NOT increase load carrying capacity. It will just carry what you have better.

To increase load carrying capacity would require re- certification of the vehicles GVM, and springs and shocks aren't going to make any difference there.

FWIW I currently run Kings and Bilstiens, but as Pat said, the Kings can suffer from sag if constantly carrying a load. My rears have been replaced with the "SP" rated ones (free of charge) and time will tell...
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 09:51

Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 09:51
I have a Terracan and had some SP ones put in after not being happy with the original ones ( not high enough ) ''The SP means special order, which means a bit dearer and no warranty..

If towing ( especially a CT ) the polyairs are very good, adjust them so the 4x4 rides level ( unless you have massive amounts of weight in the back ) and you may find you can leave the original springs in if you want a nice ride around town and you don't carry loads regularly..
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Follow Up By: Member - Scoof (SA) - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 16:34

Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 16:34
MrB
I currently have polyair's with standard springs and shockers, do you know if the same polyair's will be any good once I fit new 40mm lift.Can they go back in or not.

Cheers Scoof. :-)
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Follow Up By: psproule - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 17:39

Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 17:39
Yes, you can get spaces to go with the 2" lift.
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Follow Up By: psproule - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 17:41

Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 17:41
Spacers even.

Despite the comment below, polyairs have worked for me.
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Follow Up By: Member - Scoof (SA) - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 19:12

Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 19:12
Thanks psproule

Polyair have done good for me so far anyway 3years now.
I don't rock hop just ruff roads for me.

Scoof. :-)
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Reply By: Member - Broe (WA) - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 12:43

Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 12:43
Gronk,

I would have to disagree with you on the Polyairs, I think they are rubbish. Reason being, when you are doing normal highway work etc they are fine, but due to the placement of the valve and also the way the bag is made, if you start doing any serious flexing of the suspension, you pull the valve out or knock it out, thus losing the bag. I would personally go Firestone, a much better bag and I haven't had any problems with it since changing.

As for ARB and OME, they are just a repainted King Spring. Cost always comes into it but for any IFS vehicle, Paj being similar to the Hilux and also Prado (barr the fact the Hilux is leaf rear end) I would go the Koni front Struts 88 series and 90 series rear shocks, with the Springs, I would go either Dobinson or Lovells. I would probably go medium on the front as you only have an alloy bullbar, my mate and I both have the HD but that is with Steel bar, winch, extra battery etc. You will only need to change the springs over at a later date if you add a steel bar etc, not the struts and it will only cost you a couple of hundred including labour.

With the rear, you can get a nice progressive rate dobinson spring that is EHD considering the constant weight you are carrying but if you run bags then HD would be fine. The benefit of this is when you come home and use it as a daily commuter, leave 5psi in the bags (always have to have something) and then your ride quality is still comfortable.

My 2 cents worth.


Broe
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 12:55

Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 12:55
My apoligies Broe.....went outside and looked at the box they came in and yep, they are coilrites by Firestone..

I had Konis on my Terracan and after having one in the rear lose compression dampening ( replaced with another, then the same happen to one of the fronts, I changed ( front only so far ) to Bilstiens..both had done less than 50,000K's..
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 12:55

Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 12:55
My apoligies Broe.....went outside and looked at the box they came in and yep, they are coilrites by Firestone..

I had Konis on my Terracan and after having one in the rear lose compression dampening ( replaced with another, then the same happen to one of the fronts, I changed ( front only so far ) to Bilstiens..both had done less than 50,000K's..
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Follow Up By: Member - Broe (WA) - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 13:08

Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 13:08
Koni's as standard are just an average shock, but if you get their uprated series, especially the 90 series, they are bullet proof, they put a lot of these on trucks (prime movers) and they are really beefy. I can't get my hand around it that's how big they are.Canning stock route proved no match for them which is a good testament. In saying that, there were no problems with the OME shocks being the Nitro-charger with which they now come out with a sport version which is only a few dollars more but a much better unit from the looks. At only half the price could be a good alternative for many.


Broe
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 14:15

Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 14:15
They only made the 80 series for the Terracan...and the bigger ones certainly wouldn't fit anyhow..

On a side note...I have a KK CT and after they did some outback testing they went to Fox shocks (monotube ) as they were the only ones that didn't have any major increase in temps after some corrugation testing..funny how you never hear of them for 4x4's etc.?

ps; I get my Bilsteins ( and Konis ) for $150 each ( trade ) which isn't too bad !!
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Follow Up By: Member - Broe (WA) - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 14:20

Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 14:20
You don't live in Perth by any chance, that kind of price would be handy over here.
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Follow Up By: psproule - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 17:45

Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 17:45
Got my rear Bilstiein (which are monotube) up to 80 deg C last year while hopping over all the corrugations on the sand dunes chopped up by those without a clue. (ducks for cover). At that temp they went "off".
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Reply By: JanP - Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 22:46

Tuesday, May 05, 2009 at 22:46
Hi Scoof
I have a similar vehicle and fitted ARB Old Man Emu shockers. I am happy although it is a harsher ride than the standard shockers.
I live in Magill andif you are nearby and would like to have look and ride tou can give me a call on 83311240.
Jan
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Follow Up By: Member - Scoof (SA) - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 at 07:36

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 at 07:36
Thanks JanP,

I live about 250k away. But thanks for the offer.

Cheers Scoof. :-)
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