running electric chainsaw from gennie

Submitted: Friday, May 08, 2009 at 13:57
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Mitre 10 have a decent looking 2400w 400m blade chainsaw that I like the look of - but will a Honda 2kv be enough to run it? Would it effectively only run it to 2000w and if so is this no worse than running a 1800w chainsaw from it?
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Reply By: Member - Broe (WA) - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 14:05

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 14:05
I know I am not answering your question here but my thought is it's a fair bit to carry around on your back when looking for a nice night log. How much is it and how does it compare to a good little boss or similar?

Broe
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Follow Up By: Steve - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 14:25

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 14:25
5.7 kilos and $130

they also have a petrol job at the same price but it's smelly, messy, harder to start and I have to carry more fuel around for it.

I suppose the other issue is, will it overload the gennie? Answering my own question, I suppose if I work it hard, yes but if I go fairly easy on it, maybe not. Dunno.

btw, I've actually had a rush of blood to the hread and gone and bought the bugger. Still have the docket though. It was the only leccy one they had - I think Bunnings do an 1800w? Ryobi or similar.
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Follow Up By: Tenpounder - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 15:57

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 15:57
Hi there. According to my wife, I'm also messy, smelly and hard to start, but heh?
Seriously, I have my doubts that your genny will let you start the 2400w chain saw, since the initial surge current is likely to be more than the stated load, which is in turn more than the peak rating of the genny, which is more than the continuous rating. My Yamaha has a little "So you think I'm stupid?" light that cut in real fast when I tried to sneak a few extra watts. Its not a matter of running at less than full power, but whether the chain saw can get enough initial power to get the motor, chain etc moving in the first place. If I had a 2kw genny, I'd certainly prefer to run the 1800w saw. After all, the Honda is probably not rated at 2000w continuous anyway, so 1600-1800 is probably a good max load.
Chris (SA)
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Follow Up By: Steve - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 16:13

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 16:13
cheers mate - that's probably the main issue. The initial spike to start the bugger. I'll take it back. Bunnings have Talon, Ryobi and McCulloch electric saws. I think there's a 1400 or 1600w - perhaps that's what I should be looking at.
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Follow Up By: Tenpounder - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 16:18

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 16:18
Yes, I think that's safer. I just checked, and the Honda is rated at 1800w continuous, so 2400w is 33% above this, even without the initial surge.
Unless you trade the genny for the next size up!
Cheers
Chris (SA)
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Follow Up By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 22:15

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 22:15
The Honda 2kw genny is actually only rated at 1.6kw continous.

EU2000i Specifications
Engine Honda GX100
Displacement 98.5cc
AC Output 120V 2000W max. (16.7A) 1600W rated (13.3A)
Receptacles 20A 125V Duplex
DC Output 12V, 96W (8A)
Starting System Recoil
Fuel Tank Capacity 0.95

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Reply By: Member - Ian W (NSW) - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 14:42

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 14:42
Wow!

You are a brave man Steve to even mention generator in your thread.lol.

Look what happened in an earlier thread where a couple of us were looking for a heater to run of a generator.

Got the good old lecture about National Parks, upsetting other people etc; etc.

Mate I really hope you do get some worthwhile advice, suggestions without being targeted by those who seem to have a "holier than thou" attitude.

Ian.
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Follow Up By: Steve - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 14:51

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 14:51
I don't go in Nat Parks anyway, mate. I'd rather have our little doggy for company than be ripped off to the tune of $30+ for the lavish facilites they put on for us. Apart from that, he's likely to tread on a three-legged-lesser-spotted spider which could just about finish the species off - and we can't have that, can we?

....and before all you Nazi's start, I was joking. OK?
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian W (NSW) - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 17:49

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 17:49
Cracker!

Me too!

National Parks are invariably overpriced and over crowded though we did enjoy Kinchega out at Menindee.

Will watch out for those three legged spiders. Is it true that for every eight legged bastard there are two and half three legged jobbies?
If that is the case your doggy can splat a few and no one will notice the loss.

Ian

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Follow Up By: Member - Bushpig - Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 09:21

Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 09:21
Here, here, me too!
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Reply By: Member - Broe (WA) - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 14:55

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 14:55
Steve & Ian,

I can't believe you guys run Generators. You are meant to be out in the bush enjoying the tranquility. You are both noisy disturbances to the peace. How dare you. I mean, the rest of us who have respect for the environment and other people drive really quiet 4x4's that aren't rattly diesels, we don't pull into campsites after 5pm, don't talk around the fire (visual pollution) for fear of making noise, pick up all our rubbish, don't run the truck so we can have hot showers from our under bonnet water heaters or to charge our batteries, play music of any description, fill the air waves with waffle and basically don't do anything to disturb anyone or anything.

There you go Ian, hope you feel better LOL.

Seriously now, I don't run a generator but have no problems with people who do, as I find everyone is normally quiet after about 10pm anyway. Those people who run them throughout the night I tend to find would disturb people in other ways as they tend to be the type of people who are bloody inconsiderate anyway.

Plus you want to run a chainsaw as well........ Bugger me.
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Follow Up By: Steve - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 15:03

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 15:03
I don't run mine that often either as I have 190w of solar on board but when I do, I never run it after 8pm anyway. But it's great insurance.

now, back to the thread.........
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Follow Up By: Member - Broe (WA) - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 15:07

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 15:07
Sorry mate, didn't mean to hijack it. Had to have a laugh at Ian's expense as I saw what he went through on his last thread.
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Follow Up By: kiwicol - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 17:09

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 17:09
Hi Broe, some of the best times fo camping are well before 10pm and from my experiences people running gennies have very little consideration for people out to enjoy whats around us without the noise. I have from experience found no need to run gennies for power, having done 3 extended trips ranging from 6mths to 9 mths using the vehicle alt, and a battery charger when in a caravan park. My only noise pollution is sometimes i play my music a little loud. Col
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Follow Up By: Member - Broe (WA) - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 17:14

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 17:14
I knew I would get a bite from somewhere.
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Follow Up By: kiwicol - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 18:15

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 18:15
Not a bite, just fact, and have same drinking handi cap. Col
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian W (NSW) - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 18:20

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 18:20
That was a bite Broe!

Now lift the rod, then pump and wind!

Remember! Lift, then wind the rod down the line.

I reckon you will land a "holier than thou" mullet.

Ian
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Follow Up By: kiwicol - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 18:34

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 18:34
and the holier than thou mullet is a GENNIE Col
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Follow Up By: Member - Broe (WA) - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 18:38

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 18:38
I do have to admit Ian, I don't think I have ever got to the point where I have said to myself, "Gee I wish I had a genny". Now I don't care if others use one, but I have just never seen the need. Some wisely spent dollars on dual battery systems, solar panels, correct battery choice and of course smart electrical accessories, on top of looking at high power drainage items and replacing with alternatives like your heater issue, and I have been able to stay out bush for 7 weeks and I reckon I could do so indefinitely (limited by fuel of course). Running the car for showers and maybe a little day trip here and there along with the solar panel is plenty enough to keep everything topped up.

But, each to their own I say, that's the beauty of living in a free country. It's all horses for courses.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian W (NSW) - Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 14:23

Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 14:23
Hope that music wasn't "Achey Breaky Heart.

Ian
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Reply By: beelzebug - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 16:01

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 16:01
That blade would cut through anything, but at 400m long, what roof racks do you use?

I too try not to run my chainsaw after 10.00pm.

Sorry, but it's getting late on Friday arvo, and lunch was good!

No offence, all.
cheers
Gary

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Follow Up By: Steve - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 16:33

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 16:33
400m ones of course. What d'you think?

;))

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Reply By: Member - Tony V (NSW) - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 16:02

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 16:02
The honda will shutdown at 2400w.

You spoke about smelly, what do you fuel the Generator with?

A decent extention lead will take up a bit of room.
A well serviced chainsaw will start every time.
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Reply By: Mr Pointyhead - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 16:07

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 16:07
Couple of thoughts..

What to you want the saw for ? If it is for general 4x4ing then you will be using it for track clearing and firewood gathering. Mine gets used mostly for track clearing, especially in the high country.

Will you be able to run the electric one if you come across a tree blocking the track/road ? Will the electric one have the power to get through some of the larger trees you will come across ?

Finally, do you have the skills and PPE to use it safely ?. You may want to consider a chainsaw operators couse (Probably a crosscut course would be fine). Most course operators supply saws, so do the course before you buy the saw, and you will have a much better idea what sort of saw to get.

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Follow Up By: Member - Broe (WA) - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 17:13

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 17:13
Pointy head, PPE? Are you serious? Most people, and I am sure you are guilty of it, get out in their thongs and stubbies with a singlet, put the beer down on the ground, start saw, couple of cuts, get back in and keep driving. Surely....

Do you work offshore or on a mine?
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Follow Up By: Steve - Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 09:14

Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 09:14
that's me broe. Never get the chainsaw out unless you've downed half a case of beer and whatever you do, and whatever you do, do not follow any safety procedures
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Follow Up By: Steve - Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 09:17

Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 09:17
that's me broe. Never get the chainsaw out unless you've downed half a case of beer and whatever you do, and whatever you do, do not follow any safety procedures
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Follow Up By: Steve - Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 17:47

Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 17:47
ha - the record got stuck
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 16:08

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 16:08
I reccon it will well and truly overload you gen set.
To have ANY power it will need the full 2.4kW (it is NOT the same as a 1.8kW one, different motor and gearing all together).
In addition it will need more (maybe MUCH more) at start up for a second or so.

Cheers,
Peter
OKA196 Motorhome
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Reply By: Steve - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 16:37

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 16:37
well and truly too much for my gennie - it's going back.

I've done Part I of a course. I don't use after beer o'clock, I don't use it at the crack of dawn and if I am camping anywhere near anyone else, it's usually one of the rarre times we go to a caravan park and we don't use it there. Although I didn't ask for that input, thanks anyway. I'll try to behave and use it responsibly. I already own one but would prefer this electric option.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian W (NSW) - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 18:24

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 18:24
Not using your saw in a caravan park is as responsible as you need be. lol

Ian
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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 18:10

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 18:10
I have a McCulloch petrol jobbie and she starts always on the third pull. Don't muck around with electric it will be a pain if you want to go and get a quick log for the roast that night. Paid around $250 about 3 years ago
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Reply By: Horacehighroller - Friday, May 08, 2009 at 18:21

Friday, May 08, 2009 at 18:21
I'd have a serious problem with the noise if you run the generator.

S0.... buy a petrol chainsaw and use that so there will be no noise???

Keep everyone happy!

Peter
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Reply By: Crackles - Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 13:57

Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 13:57
Hey Steve this would have to go down as the most sidetracked thread of the week :-)
With something like an electric chainsaw which has a very high start & running load, a genny needs a continuous rating about 20% higher than the wattage of the saw. This ensures that it would continue cutting in tough wood or when the bar is gummed up. Even the baby electric saws would struggle to run on a 2 kva restricting the size log it will cut to something a sharp axe would handle anyway.
Cheers Craig..................
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Reply By: Steve - Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 17:53

Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 17:53
All done - gone back to another petrol job. My old one was old when I got it - which is probably why I got it, if you know what I mean. I gave it away for a case of beer to somebody on my last trip vowing to get meself an electric job. Anyway, I'll keep the carby and plug on this nice new job clean and hope I don't have to spend the best part of an hour getting it going. I could've cut the wood with a bow saw/axe in the time it took to start the old one. Nothing really flash but should do the trick.
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