Keeping warm in the van
Submitted: Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 18:47
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Member - Matt & Caz H (QLD)
Hi all,
We are now in wonderful Tasmania!!! its such an experience and we have only been here 5mins. We like to
free camp to save the $$$$ however it is starting to cool down here in the evenings and early morning. We do have a generator (Yamaha 2.4) but it will not handle the small fan heater (2400watts) and it also trips out on the "so called" van heater - in the roof.
Does anyone have any ideas on a heater we can use that will run off our generator????
Thanks in advance.
PS "Happy Mothers Day" to all our wonderful mums out there - I will spending mothers day at
Cradle Mountain!!!! :-)
Caroline (cold hands and feet...........)
Reply By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 21:09
Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 21:09
Cradle Mountain ay, just over the back from here...
Yep, the mornings are abit chilly now, quite a few frosts already.I posted on here the other day about a heater to run in our camper off a Yamaha 1KVA genny.One post was a oil heater from Bunnings and while in there found a 1500W/750W ceramic fan heater.
Test run it today(on 750W) and heats
well of the genny.
Any heater under 2000W will run ok off your 2.4 Yammy and will make waking up warm a pleasure.There wont be to many others about to annoy with a genny running and more than likely, there's will be running to.........
5 days to go to the
Gold coast...ten days
home then 3mths on the road.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian W (NSW) - Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 08:20
Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 08:20
Hi Nick,
Thanks for
the tip on the ceramic fan heater. I'm off to Bunnings tomorrow morning to
check it out.
Have been looking for a small fan heater to run of a Honda eu10
Ian
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Reply By: Motherhen - Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 21:19
Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 21:19
Hi Caz
We have never had need of using a heater in the caravan, but we left Tassie on 1 April, and just missed seeing snow. We had a stiff frost during the last week there, and again in South Australia, but didn't know it was cold until we looked outside and saw white everywhere. I should have known; if i reach for my bed socks, it usually means a frost.
Years ago, my family (Dad, Mum, Sis and me) toured Europe in a small motor
home. We found it impossible to buy winter pyjamas in London, as housing all has central heating, so only had lightweight jamas. When it was cold, we tied the sleeping bag from the inside, close to our necks to keep the warm in. When really cold, we'd pull a blanket over the sleeping bag. In Norway late in the summer (after all the tourist facilities had closed), we woke to find snow lightly falling. We were cosy warm inside, even though the 'pop top' had open air all around when raised.
Do it the old fashioned way - track suits (including over their jamas at night if the kids feel the cold), woollen bed socks, and a blanket under and over their sleeping bags.
Coats, gloves and beanies when outside.
Have a wonderful Mother's Day - will you get snow?
Motherhen
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 22:53
Saturday, May 09, 2009 at 22:53
Caroline,
we have used a Coleman gas heater connected to a small gas bottle but found it got in the way of us as it took up too much floor space.
We were given a tip that has worked out very
well. Find a small CERAMIC pot plant pot. It has to be ceramic. Terracotta wont take the heat. Make sure it has a drain hole in the bottom.
Place it upside down on one gas burner on your cooktop for the evening. Turn it off before you go to bed.
Makes the whole van very toasty.
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 08:09
Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 08:09
CO poisoning from un-flued gas heaters is called 'sleeping death'.
You just nod off, never to wake again.
It is not only extremely dangerous, but illegal too, if that matters.
Cheers,
Peter
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Follow Up By: Ted (Cairns) - Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 09:57
Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 09:57
Just thinking... Carbon monoxide is a result of incomplete combustion, i.e. if a fire has heaps of oxygen you get CO2 and minimal CO. However if a fire is starved of oxygen your CO percentage in the flue/exhaust/"smoke" increases.
I'd refrain from putting anything on the burner for that reason, just let it burn but turn it off before bed.
You can leave a window open, it does not need much air, but: I've forgitten my physics, but I have a suspicion CO is heavier than air, so it will "pool" in low
places. So you could have air circulation and still if your bed is in a "low spot" you may not wake up...
In conclusion, wouldn't sleep with an unflued heater on, and please don't doze off, either.
BTW Europe trips: what worked for me on very cold nights was 12V work light (cabled to battery) in sleeping bag. 99% of electricity is converted to heat in light bulbs.
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 10:56
Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 10:56
God love us!
I'm in my sixth decade on this planet.
I didn't get here by worrying about illegailities or not taking chances.
I got here by looking at what could go wrong and making sure it doesn't.
It's called Common Sense.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 13:13
Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 13:13
Intersting comment about terracotta, boats have been using them as heaters for years!
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Follow Up By: paulnsw - Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 13:33
Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 13:33
Shaker dont worry about terracotta pots or CO2 but do worry about the harmful radiation which heated terracotta pots give off when heated. The radiation is at levels
well above safety limits and is at levels which will give you cancer sooner or later.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 13:42
Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 13:42
Don't they
cook in terra cotta?
Anyway, I was just commenting on the use of terra cotta pots for heating boats, seems every second boat that we get has a terra cotta pot on board.
I couldn't find anything on the net to support your claims, what do they 'radiate'?
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Follow Up By: Member - Teege (NSW) - Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 15:45
Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 15:45
gone bush
why not put the Coleman on the stove and leave it there for the night. Its not on the floor and you dont have to rely on your common sense to protect you from carbon monoxide poisoning. May God continue to love you!
teege
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 15:47
Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 15:47
Radiation eh?
Can you imagine the amount of radiation given off when the Chinese made the terracotta warriors all those years ago?
It certainly seemed to have put a dent in that country's
population growth.... NOT.
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Follow Up By: paulnsw - Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 17:45
Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 17:45
they also used gas lighting mantels until recent years that also emitted harmful amount of radiation. Majority of gas mantels you purchase now are radiation free and will be marked accordingly on the box.
I dont believe they do
cook in terracotta as the product is porous. There are terracotta ovens. Levels of radiation in terracotta and all clays varies. Generally speaking once heated they all produce higher than accepted safety levels. Some terracotta and clays produce alarmingly high levels.
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