does he make it?

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of course he does...its a toyota.........
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Reply By: Member No 1- Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 15:07

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 15:07
but he is stupid....he has a child
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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 15:48

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 15:48
And a Toyota hahahaha

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Follow Up By: Member - Tony & Julie (FNQ) - Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 16:22

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 16:22
It was only pure luck - That was a very stupid crossing. One where he should be charged. There is a child in the passenger seat. Cheers Tony
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Reply By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 15:07

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 15:07
I have heard that since this went on the net last year, the bloke was charged with a few things including endangering a child.
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 15:09

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 15:09
and most rightly so I reckon
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 15:24

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 15:24
He went to court in Rockhampton last month and was found Guilty.

He was in the Rockhampton paper having a whinge about being charged for it.

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Reply By: GoneTroppo Member (FNQ) - Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 15:10

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 15:10
He'd be another one of those morons who cause others to risk their lives rescuing him when he gets swept away next time.
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Follow Up By: OzTroopy - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 10:17

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 10:17
Quite possibly .... and survivors of instances like that shold be fined considerably and publicly denounced as idiots rather than being given celebrity status on TV.

If that was the repercussions of undertaking risky actions .... there might be less of them.

Would make a lot more sense than prosecuting someone for something that "might" happen.
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Follow Up By: OzTroopy - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 10:18

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 10:18
survivors of instances ... where it goes wrong.
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 15:47

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 15:47
This has been posted, debated, discussed before on these forums. He was officially charged by the Police following the posting of these images I understand.

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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 16:25

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 16:25
I must have been asleep when it was posted last
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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 16:43

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 16:43
Yer always asleep Number One.....mebbe if yer take those glasses off yer might see something......hehehehe
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 07:37

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 07:37
they protect mt eyesight Willem....god help me if I saw you...i could go blind in both eyes...one for the second time round....but i was probably out n bout having fun some (swmbo had me working in other words) and didnt see it...but it was a toyota and derserved a second look by all niss... err all non toyota drivers..hahaha
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 08:53

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 08:53
I'm hearin ya! LOL
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Reply By: Member - Matt (Perth-WA) - Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 16:02

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 16:02
He was fined $750 and disqualified from driving for 6 months.

Report here Mercury News
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Reply By: dact - Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 16:13

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 16:13
Truly stupid ...I feel sorry for the child to have such a stupid parent.


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Follow Up By: Member - Malcolm (Townsville) - Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 17:49

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 17:49
and for the sake of the child I hope the father sits down with the child and explains that in some cases parents make stupid decisions. He has now paid for that.

Once committed (to the crossing) he had to follow it through (in this case he was lucky). IIRC didn't he have a tinnie on behind. I watched a video on an email a mate sent me last year.

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Reply By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 16:53

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 16:53
I like this from teh Mercury:

'Mr Lahiff said those who posted the images of him driving his LandCruiser had invaded his privacy.

“They never had my permission to put those images on the internet. It made me look like a bit of a goose.”


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Reply By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 18:54

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 18:54
OR...........He's a local, crossed it many times when in flood.
Maybe he is an experienced 4x4 driver who knows the capabilities of himself and his vehicle.

The fact that he made the crossing may be attributed to luck, but equally, could it not be attributed to experience.

Im not saying he was right, nor am I saying he was wrong, I dont know the bloke.


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Follow Up By: Member - ross m (WA) - Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 19:30

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 19:30
What made it so dangerous was that there is a 4-5 metre drop from the bridge to the normal water level.
If he had have been swept off it would have been near impossible for either to survive.
There is a video that these pics were taken from that shows the speed of the water.
He was bloody idiot,end of story
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 19:59

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 19:59
You can see the speed of the water by the 100 km speed sign, Michael
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Follow Up By: dact - Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 21:27

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 21:27
IMO that's what made it stupid.
The speed of the current.
If the water was relatively still, even I would try it, and I know without a doubt my hubby would do it, But with an unknown current speed and it looks as if its very fast, why would you take the risk, particularly with your child on board.




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Follow Up By: OzTroopy - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 10:12

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 10:12
The 4.5m drop to normal water level does not run the full length of the crossing ... its about where the vehicle is in the 3rd photo.

Thats also the only section of "bridge"
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Reply By: OzTroopy - Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 20:15

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 20:15
These pics are always good to fire up the emotions ....

He made it across .... so whats the big deal.

Hes happy, his brother or whoever the kid was, was happy, the photographers and video operaters were happy to get the footage, toyota must be happy.

Now if it had all gone pear shaped ... that would be a different matter.
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 07:38

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 07:38
and the coppers are happy...they made a point and got some money for the Gov't coffers
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Follow Up By: OzTroopy - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 10:04

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 10:04
Welll ... someone in control of the govt coffers might have been happy at the income ....

I doubt the coppers would have been as they had to undertake an investigation and spend time in court based on something reported as " dangerous" by a bunch of people who worry about "what if that happened" situations more than "it did happen" situations.
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Reply By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 20:30

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 20:30
maybe he should have used the boat he was towing instead
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Reply By: Best Off Road - Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 20:32

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 20:32
Nudie,

That's older than you, well maybe not, it wasn't taken with a Box Brownie LOL.

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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 07:42

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 07:42
hey ....oops just saw you corrected yourself...lucky you ...hahaha

as i said above i was having fun somewhere else ( i didnt know it at the time) but it was fun........ so I believe...I mean ...told
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Reply By: Member - Hugh (WA) - Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 22:02

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 22:02
#1 - must admit I have missed all the hype until now too. What is amazing is that the flow is so strong that the boat is floating (assume with trailer) and is hanging off the back angled downstream (most clear on 4th photo). That must have added to the pull on the back end - amazed it stayed put. Could have ended tragically - very lucky!
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 07:43

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 07:43
yep WA is your problem though.....1 and 1/2 years behind the rest of us.....:))))
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 09:55

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 09:55
We have daylight savings over here, so it's probably an hour short of 1½ years or is that longer than??

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Follow Up By: OzTroopy - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 10:22

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 10:22
The boat facing into the current would cause less drag than having the force of water hitting it broadside ... trailer or not.
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Reply By: fisho64 - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 02:38

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 02:38
I have to agree with those who say that he made a judgement call and was proved correct.

How many of you squeal when authorities make a call on what is safe or not? Such as where you can go in a 4x4? and what you can do in it?

Its great to sit on the moral high ground.

Maybe he WAS experienced? Maybe he HAS crossed it many times in flood?
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Follow Up By: Member - John M (NSW) - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 07:08

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 07:08
Maybe he had Cooper Tyres which gave him all the traction he needed.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony & Julie (FNQ) - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 17:38

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 17:38
fisho64 - I am one that squeals when authority dictates over safety. I also have a lot of experience crossing flooded rivers. He made it but the judgment was wrong, you do not risk a child in the car & towing a boat. The guide post tops are just showing, you would have to estimate that it was 900mm to 1000mm deep. The flood marker top is just visible. The flow is moderate.

Good luck is why he is here, not good judgment and he was rightly charged because of that.
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Reply By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 11:38

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 11:38
You all seem to forget the main reason for road closures in these situations.
You can't see if the bridge or road under the water is still there or just a big hole that you would have next to no chance escaping from the vehicle if it fell thru. Ripples on the surface don't always show up holes especially when the flow is strong. Logs washed down damage and weaken structures quite often.
Also the lives of rescue workers/ volunteers when it goes pear shaped.
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Reply By: Flywest - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 14:36

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at 14:36
Yeah - funny that.

If Alby Mangles, The Leyland Bros, or Crock Hunter did it - we'd all pay for the right to watch the movie and big coporations would sell squillions of beer adds off of it (leading to yet more needless alcohol related road deaths)!.

Don't stick ya head up over the parapett in Australia - theres a letgion of doo gooders, just waiting to knock it off with a big stick!

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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Thoughtfully- Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 22:38

Thursday, May 21, 2009 at 22:38
what a load of rubbish
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