Nissan Armada SUV - Patrol Replacement?

Truckster

I was going to say it could pass for a Ford Explorer but refrained.

I'd like to see a 4.8 or 5.0ltr GU, or even a 4.5 Diesel V8.

IM dreaming arent i?

Russell, is a 2.7 4 cyl petrol big enough for a Prado? Was it designed for a Prado?

All large car co's have a parts bin.

Most popular medium trucks in this country have 4cyl turbo diesel's and ISUZU's up to 8 Tonne have no more capacity than 4.8L

The ZD30 problems are IMHO more to do with execution (quality control and testing) than engine capacity. They go gooooood.

Regds

Bill

I have a ZD30 Patrol and it does what i want it to do in they way I want to do it. Outback touring.
It uses a lot of technology to produce the power and torque that it does. If I was looking for an out and out 4x4 for remote areas and work on properties I would not have bought it.
We would all be better with 15 year old diesel technology that doesn't need a computer to fix it for the serious stuff.
The ZD30 came out of Renault/Nissan commercial vehicles in Europe that are are probably never more that a 20km from a servo.

I get a good deal further away from a Servo in mine but I wouldn't swap it. Horses for courses.

Crowie

Truckster,

Both have been tested. 4.8l six Turbo Diesel and V8 turbo diesel.Spotted in the outback about 18mths ago.

More info Duncs....

How you know it was both engine configs? They surely wouldnt be labled on the side of the car.

Bill.

Gen 3 Commodores go good 2, but they are falling over everywhere. Cause it goes good dont mean it is good

Truckster ... All cars have their issues. The GENIII most definitely is out their with its problems. But one fact that the press keeps covered is that only 2% of the GENIII engines used in Australia have been reported with problems.

GM have introduced new piston skirt designs into the engine now and, supposedly, has fixed the piston slap / oil consumption issue.

Interestingly though, it was never an issue in the US for some reason where the engine only appears in Corvettes.

I heard on the radio some time ago that the oil and other Gen III engine probs. were caused by the very thin oil used. They used it as it helped in decreasing friction and therefore consumption, but apparently in America fuel and oil consumption is no big deal like it is in Australia.
As we know, it seems the USA thinks that if it ain't big it can't be no good.
Anyway, they've got heaps to waste now, haven't they?

Truckster,

Must admit it is second hand info, but it comes from a guy who should know.

He knows about the vehicles because he spoke to the drivers.

Steve

I hope I'm wrong to. I did say "variations" or perhaps dirivitive is a better word. It wasn't part of my wish list. I really think Nissan is too smart to foist the US Armada onto this market. Besides I think the Armada is about Suburban size and would have limited use for serious offroading here.

Nissan have had a lot of experience selling 4bees in this country and they know the market. With the Armada they are catering to the US market and we all know how unsuccessful others have been in trying to pass off US purpose built and designed vehicles in this market.

Never know they might suprise us with a new larger diesel motor. Selling diesel Patrols is a niche market around the world and keeps the Nissan brand name in view. They will have to do something if they want to keep in the workhorse 4x4 market. They also have a large commercial truck production. There must be a place in their future for a new diesel.

Savvas

It's actually called an "alliance" but I think Renault hold the purse strings and instyalled a Renault executive to run Nissan Read on
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.Louis Schweitzer, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Renault, and Yoshikazu Hanawa, President and Chief Executive Officer of Nissan Motor Co., jointly announced a partnership agreement between Renault and Nissan. The agreement, signed on March 27, 1999, will create the fourth largest automaker in the world.

Renault will make a major contribution to reduce Nissan's indebtedness, estimated at more than 2 trillion yen (US$16.7 billion). Renault is going to invest 605 billion yen (approximately 4.7 billion euros / FRF 31 billion / US$ 5.1 billion), by taking a 36.8% equity stake (and corresponding voting rights) in Nissan Motor Co., by means of a reserved capital increase at Y 400 per share, and a 22.5% stake in Nissan Diesel. Nissan Motor will keep an identical equity participation to that of Renault in Nissan Diesel.