Kununurra tragedy

This is very sad and I am sure there are lessons we can all learn.The first one is you can never be too careful during vehicle recovery. TRAVEL SAFE BE SAFE.

That's not a freak accident. Fool for using the roo bar. Why not a recovery point. I just cannot understand the ineptness of some people.

And the worse thing is that the one who suffers is the one who is totally innocent.

No sympathy for the so called adults but buckets of tears for the innocent.

Sad

Sad proof for what everyone is (should be) tought.

Never never never attach any kinetic recovery device to a bull ball. it needs to go on a rated recovey point, normally attached to the chassis.

Hi Rocco
It has not made news here in SA. Very tragic for the family of the young girl.

How many times do you hear of these type of incidents from people that do not no how to safely use basic recovery gear.

Not blaming the Rotary Club involved, but with this type of event, all organisers should be made to do basic recovery courses and the safe way of using any type of recovery equipment. It goes to show that both drivers, the Nissan and the Toyota had no idea of what they were doing.

A very tragic waste of life and one that you can not turn back the time on.

Cheers

Stephen

Unfortunately this sort of thing is all to frequent and age isn't a boon to knowing better.

It just doesn't always end in tragedy,









Geoff

One thing I suggest is that you don't carry a snatch strap as a rule
and unless you really need it, we changed over to winch straps a long time ago and only ocassionly take a snatch.

The winch strap is similar looking but doesn't store the kinetic energy. Its worth getting both long and shorts ones as well as they take up less room.

The times you need a snatch strap over the steady pull of a winch are small , and doing this sort of inbuilds an extra saftey mechanism.

Very tragic for all concerned. No doubt there will be a Coroners Inquest.

Rule #1 might be to use only a rated recovery point (ie. not a bull/roo bar)

Rule #2 must surely be to get all the spectators well clear of the recovery.

A terrible example of a lack of commonsense and knowledge.

One can only hope that the loss of a life will prompt others to take more care in the future.

Very very sad, and until we know the truth lets not judge.

Im sure we are all guilty of what has happened here. Dont try tell me 20 years ago that you always used rated recovery points. I dont think they existed.

BUT, yes in this day and age it should be common sense that you would only use rated recovery points. But what if the vehicle didnt have them? I have been guilty many times of using towing hooks, bullbars, tow bars even the leaf springs once. I quiver at the thought now, well and truly scares the bleep out of me, but none of them cars had rated recovery points. My bullbar is full steel, and has side bars welded into place either side but i have never done it with a snatch strap, rope and chain yes. I prefer to just use my very thick rope before getting my snatch strap dirty, as we never get bogged bad enough to require much effort to come back out again.

Im more of a fan of good quality drag chain and good thick rope. Never needed a winch, as an old wise friend once told me, ''why do people put winches on the front of there car, when there stuck why the hell would you wanna keep going forward. I wanna get the hell out and go back home".

If i had a winch, bloody hell, there would be tracks all across the country. Would love one if i needed one, but for what i do its just overkill.

Actually how many people out there have drag chains and do you know what it is rated for? Anything under 10mm would be useless. If your winch cable and snatch strap is rated at say 9,000kg and you wanted a drag chain of the equivalent then you would need chain around the 16mm mark. Try lug that around in the car.

Roo bars and tow balls are not recovery points, but the thing we learn from history is........."that we learn NOTHING from history"...... and so, people being creatures of habit, will do it again....and again....and again.

They will always throw caution to the wind and take the path of least resistance.

This is not the first....and will not be the last.

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It would seem that if the vehicle was bogged in a creek bed it would be a fair guess it would have been mud not sand. I was taught that a snatchstrap is ideal for recovery from sand, but, recovery from mud requires a different technique using a steady pressure to break the suction of the mud and this would require the use of a winch extension strap. If this had been done maybe just maybe the young girl would be alive today. As we all know any recovery situation is fraught with danger.

Mike

Sadly this is not a freak accident.

It is the result of a combination of errors as most serious or fatal incidents usually are.

From the report (1) the recovery was flawed due to someone not using the correct tow points and (2) a person being within the danger zone during the recovery.


Similar incidents have happened before and will sadly happen again.

Everyone involved in the incident will live with the scars for the rest of their lives. It is just not worth the pain.

G'day Everyone,

Don't take offence, but everyone is making a mistake here. That is "That we are assuming" what happened. I have worked at many accidents and one thing I have learnt over the years is not to pass judgement until all the facts are their.
This is incredibly sad, my thoughts are with thoses involved.

regards

Beemer

Probably the darn bull bar - probably made from case hardened plasticine - or recyled sardine cans smelted in china! Rollseyes.

They said that a "part" of thebull bar broke away and hot the girl.

Yes we all know that kids shold be kept well away - but you know what kids are like, they wanna get into the thick of things and have a butchers hook so they can learn.

Sad for all concerned- whoever doies the investigation will get to the bottom of it - hopefully we can all learn from the results.

While I carry snatch straps for recovery - I prefer my herc alloy snig chain - never let me down in 30 years of moving everything from big rocks to big trees.

Non of our comments or knowlege will bring the little girl back sadly.

Condolences to the family.

Anyone with the money can buy a 4 wheel drive but that doesn't inlcude the right level of intelligence and brainpower to be able to operate it safetly. Perhaps it's time for the authorities to introduce compulsory training for potential buyers - before they take possession.