Turbo Timer's
Submitted: Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 15:50
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I have heard vis that grape vine, that Turbo Timers can't be fitted to 3Ltr Patrols, is this correcr????
JD
Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 16:10
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 16:10
Patrol Diesel
12V - to GQ - - 925/NIS YES Including 4.2 Litre.
GU - Y60 - - 925/NIS YES Commercial. No subtank.
GU - Y61 1998 - 925/GU YES Includes commercial, utility, Series 2, 3 & 4.
(all models)
MQ 24V - - 925/ST-3 NO Mid 1980's.
Is yours in that list?
See:
http://www.bogaard.com.au/site/DefaultSite/filesystem/documents/Bogaard_Guides.pdf
At:
Bogaard Timers
Note: Bogaard I believe make the timers for ARB.
Geoff
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Follow Up By: viz - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 20:34
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 20:34
Do you really need a timer?
I work as a delivery contractor and am onto my second Mercedes diesel [this one twin turbo]. I do between 70-100 stops per day and never ever idle down the turbo - as soon as I arrive, I stop the engine.
Turbos today, with superior cooling and superior oils do not need timers. Having said that it you were going up Mt Ousley towing a 2 tonne boat and wanted to stop at the top to look at the view, I would most certainly idle the turbo for a few minutes.
viz
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Follow Up By: viz - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 20:35
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 20:35
oops again - put that one on the wrong post - sorry!
Blame it on a long day...
viz
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Follow Up By: MR_SKITZ - Tuesday, Jun 02, 2009 at 10:22
Tuesday, Jun 02, 2009 at 10:22
Im with Viz on this, turbo timers are pretty redundant, there is no need to excessively idle down any turbo vehicle.
Yes you should idle them down if you just stopped from a hard haul ie legging it up Ousley, god knows Ive had a few jiggers get warm by the time I reached the top, and you pull over to stop at the top straight away ... But not really neccesary if you just pulled in off a highway to a service station lets say, by the time you have geared down to pull into the service station, parked up and got out, the turbo will have warmed down enough to switch off straight away. Should you feel you need to idle down more, then a 30 second wait would be at most all you would need.
I drive semi's for a living, and at most i'd idle down the truck not more than 1 minute, thats enough time to apply the maxi's, record info on my run sheet and log book, have a drink of water and open the door.
just my .02
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Reply By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 18:39
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 18:39
Hi JD, I have a 3 turbo diesel, not a Patrol, but a 07 Mazda & it is not factory fitted with a timer, We use it to tow our caravan. So I am curious as to why you need a timer on a relatively small motor such as a 3 litre, same as ours. Thanks & Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 22:19
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 22:19
The reason that timers are not factory fitted is because it is illegal in most ,if not all States to leave a car unattended with the motor running.
Even if it locked and the keys removed.
That doesnt get away from the fact that to just stop a turbo that has been running at over 500deg, and hope it will live if constantly turned straight off without idling it down in temp is dreaming.
I have one fitted to my 100TD and it only needs 90 sec and it drops to about 200deg which will prevent the oil from boiling.
The one i have is a MINI TIMER and got it from Autobarn for about $70.
No need to spend $245 on an ARB.
Only 3 wires to hook up.
Waits for flames LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 22:22
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 22:22
The answer to the original question is YES
I had the same one in my 2003 series III 3.0 Patrol'
As mentioned above dont leave it running on it in front of a narky copper.
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Reply By: Member - Bucky, the "Mexican"- Wednesday, Jun 03, 2009 at 05:11
Wednesday, Jun 03, 2009 at 05:11
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When I got our 4.2 TD Patrol, there was a turbo timer already on it.
What a waste of time, and money, I thought.
12 months down the track I am of the same opinion, just a waste.
Coming into towns I do enuf "idling down" for it not to be a problem. If I am pushing the Patrol, then I will just let it "idle down", for about 2 minutes anyway. That's just habit from owning a 2003 TD Navara for 5 years, before that.
I do not believe that things are that important, that you cannot take your time, and do the cooling down bit.
Cheers
Bucky
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