HID Driving Lights Wiring

Submitted: Sunday, Jun 21, 2009 at 18:50
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Hi all,
I have a second hand set of IPF HID spotties with just the wiring to the lights. can anyone tell me what I need to get them working as there are four wires going to the spotties!?
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Reply By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Sunday, Jun 21, 2009 at 18:56

Sunday, Jun 21, 2009 at 18:56
did they come with the ballasts?
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Reply By: Fairlane - Sunday, Jun 21, 2009 at 19:25

Sunday, Jun 21, 2009 at 19:25
I really don't know anything about HID.
the cables from the lights each have a little square female four pin connector.
This led me to open the lights and they have HID stamped on the back of the globes. Inside the spot light housing is a small box about the size of a match box. sorry to be so vague, I was looking for an earth and a power wire like I am used to!!
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Reply By: Boobook2 - Sunday, Jun 21, 2009 at 20:45

Sunday, Jun 21, 2009 at 20:45
Seems strange, can you add a couple of photos?
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Reply By: Member - Tony F (NSW) - Sunday, Jun 21, 2009 at 21:04

Sunday, Jun 21, 2009 at 21:04
To start with are the globes are completely different to look at. Long glass tubes with a single post along the outside. Tony F
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Reply By: Fairlane - Sunday, Jun 21, 2009 at 21:19

Sunday, Jun 21, 2009 at 21:19
definately HID then, odd looking globes wth post alongside.
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Reply By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Sunday, Jun 21, 2009 at 23:01

Sunday, Jun 21, 2009 at 23:01
if the ballast (triggeing device to get 10000v to operate the globes) is incorporated into the light there should be two wires
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Reply By: Fairlane - Monday, Jun 22, 2009 at 17:40

Monday, Jun 22, 2009 at 17:40
spoke to ARB today. looks like I need two of the Ballast units and wiring.
$565 EACH!

that's just stupid. (IMO)
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Jun 22, 2009 at 17:58

Monday, Jun 22, 2009 at 17:58
Have a look on ebay....... ballasts are MUCH cheaper than that..... you'll be able to get a pair for under $100- I reckon.

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Jun 22, 2009 at 18:05

Monday, Jun 22, 2009 at 18:05
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1-x-12V-35W-HID-XENON-Single-beam-Spare-BALLAST_W0QQitemZ330337824531QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item4ce9ab2f13&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Here is an example.....

Just be aware that there are special protocols that apply to these lights.

EG: You mustn't cut or lengthen the cables that come with the ballasts and/or lights.

I'm concerned that your lights may no longer have the correct plugs attached to them (as per the photos of the ballasts on the ebay ad). These are "plug 'n' play type set-ups.

If you only have the lights with 4 loose wires (ie: no plugs), I must ask whether you bought them "off the back of a truck"? I'm not implying anything, but in cases where somebody has stolen a pair of HID driving lights, they will probably not have known that they need to also steal the ballast packs. It's possible that you unwittingly bought these lights at a flea market etc and have bought a pup as a result.

Good luck

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Fairlane - Monday, Jun 22, 2009 at 18:30

Monday, Jun 22, 2009 at 18:30
to clarify and thanks for mentioning.

A very good friend of mine has a car yard. he traded a car with these lights on it. he knew I was looking for some decent spotties and he took these off the car he traded. neither he or I knew what a HID light was untill I realised there were four wires and started investigating what was going on. The car is now sold that they came from. so all is legit.

so back to the story at hand.

I am now looking at ebay and they look like two wires from the ballast. I will contact the sellers to ask
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Jun 22, 2009 at 19:58

Monday, Jun 22, 2009 at 19:58
Yes, looking at the ballast (photo on ebay) you will notice there is one pair of cables with plugs attached. There is also another spot on the ballast box which is where another pair of wires (in a single plug) connects into.

The 2 cables you see in the photos (with the plugs on the ends) are meant to plug into matching plugs on the light. The other slot on the ballast box is where the wires from the battery (via a relay) plug into.

I would suggest that you may be best off to consider ascertaining what type of globe base the lights require and then buy a total HID kit off ebay and start again from scratch just using the IPF light bodies as your starting point. It will still work out MUCH cheaper than the $500+ you've been quoted.

I still don't really understand why there are 4 wires coming from the lights though. There should only be 2 that go to the ballast. The fact that there is a small box inside the light body doesn't help either, because if it is the ballast, then there still only needs to be 2 wires that would go to the relay. It's got me buggared!

Cheers (and sorry if I came across as accusing you of something underhanded; that was not my intention at all).

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Boobook2 - Tuesday, Jun 23, 2009 at 16:04

Tuesday, Jun 23, 2009 at 16:04
Fairlane,

You may want to get your mate to contact the owner and remove the ballasts.

If he turns them on he will send 20,000v into something, electronics, ECU or worse, a person.
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Reply By: Fairlane - Monday, Jun 22, 2009 at 20:39

Monday, Jun 22, 2009 at 20:39
no worries mate. it did sound sus!

anyhow, I asked the ARB guy about the box in the light housing hoping it was the ballast and he said it is the igniter?

are these lights really that much better than the good old fashioned globes we all used to use?
crikey, new at $900 each who has $1800 to spend on spot lights?

I can understand truckies making a living from seeing where thay are going but honestly, they would want to produce daylight!
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 23, 2009 at 14:52

Tuesday, Jun 23, 2009 at 14:52
HID is definitely much better than halogen, but whether you do enough night driving to warrant the outlay is something that only you can decide.

With the advent of the cheaper kit options (on ebay and elsewhere), there are methods of doing this conversion without costing an arm and a leg....

Cheers

Roachie
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