Which should I get? triton or courier

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Hi,

I currently own a GQ patrol wagon that I use for everything and am getting ride of it in favour of two newer different cars, already got the daily driver. Now looking for the work/play car
After searching I've found two 4x4 cab chassis utes worth buying that fit my budget, they are pretty much in the same condition, which I consider fairly good compared to other crap I've driven.

1. 2000 courier 160k td 2.5l $7.5k
Has worn and damaged drivers seat, climate controls dont fully work, idles very rough, trim is a bit rough, suspension is stiff, turbo seems to work good

2. 1996 triton 110k diesel 2.8l $8k
no apparent problems, everything seems to work, has less power, suspension is not as stiff thus a smoother more comfy ride

I was thinking of getting the triton and adding a turbo, it is older but its not as rough as the courier and has done much less km. All up the only thing the courier has over the triton is 4years and more power. If anyone has anything to add, like one has know problems or something I'd appreciate it? thanx

I'm having trouble deciding?
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Reply By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:19

Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:19
G'day Chris, from what you say I would lean towaeds the triton, a rough cab
indicates a rough life. The difference in k's is about 2/3 years driving & worth
more than the price gap. I dont know about turbos but imagine it can be done
just add more dollars, good luck either way....oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: chris123 - Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:46

Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:46
thanx
according to redbook its way over priced but way under for milage
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 09:03

Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 09:03
The triton 2.8 is the same engine as my pajero 2.8 diesel, and Mitsu used the 2.8 up to 2002 in the pajero and a bit later in the triton.
When I bought my 96 pajero TD with factory turbo, one option I looked at was buying the GL base model with non turbo 2.8 and adding after market turbo, and the 2.8 GLX with factory turbo, which I bought. Bit of research showed that the factory turbo model has slightly heavier con rods etc.

If you are just going turbo and no intercooler , i.e. not too much more power increase, should be fine. Or get a 2.8 turbo from the wreckers later on.

Only issue on the 2.8 diesels is cracked heads with the alloy head, usual maintenance issue with regular flushes and the right additives and they are fine.
Was more of a problem on the earlier 2.5 though.
Check for injector pump leaks too. If the fuel filter havn't been changed as recommended every 20,000k and dirty fuel got in, the injector pumps needs the seals doing early, as in at 150,000k. The usual hard to start (could be glow plugs as well) and a cough and rough running in the first minute or so are the usual signs, until the air gets out of the fuel injection system.
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Follow Up By: chris123 - Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 09:22

Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 09:22
so adding an intercooler would not be a good idea....
From memory is started fine and idled rather smoothly, the courier started fine but idled extremely rough
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:29

Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:29
Its the old story, more power, less engine life. :o)

As far as I can remember of the manual, the figures as as follows.

2.8 non turbo
60kw (?) and about 200nm (L200)
6deg advance on the injection pump

2.8 turbo (no intercooler)
75 kw and about 260nm (L200)
9 deg advance on the injection pump
boost about 11 psi.

2.8 turbo with intercooler (pajero and later L200?)
92kw and about 300nm
12 deg advance on the injection pump
boost about 11 psi.

The turbo models have slightly larger intake valves, a slightly higher lift on the cam and slightly lower compression pistons (18:1 instead of 20:1?)

My pajero also has a boost line from the turbo to the injection pump for extra fuel on full boost.

So you could run the intercooler, and it would give a cooler running engine, but may not be worth the cost if you don't run the extra fuel boost.
Really comes down to the aftermarket turbo kit you get.

I am running 15 psi boost and getting about 100 to 105kw and about 350nm, but also have an EGT and boost guage installed and only ocassionally use full boost. Drive on 12 to 13 max boost normally.
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Follow Up By: chris123 - Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 13:37

Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 13:37
A decent after market turbo kit, I assume about $3k to install?
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 17:15

Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 17:15
$3k sounds roughly right, as I remember from a few years ago.

Kits vary as to what you get, and installation varies as how much injection pump tuning they do.

The standard Mitsu turbo is a TD04 from memory, with flanges and vanes to suit the triton and pajero.
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Reply By: Maîneÿ . . .- Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 09:29

Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 09:29
Looks like the Ford has had a very hard life, it's what you can't see that would also be a problem.
Anyone who continues to drive a vehicle with the conditions you state would not be too fussed about maintenance either, maybe leading to an engine/gearbox rebuilt sooner, rather than later.

Make it an easy decision - get the Triton :-)

Maîneÿ . . .
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Follow Up By: chris123 - Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 09:56

Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 09:56
I suppose I should clarify the explanation
I've tried several utes (lux,lc,gq,rodeo) about that price range (<$10k) and the courier while being a bit worse off then the triton is still much better then the other utes I've driven. Dont assume when I said rough I mean crap, its still pretty good condition, just not quiet as good as the triton
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Reply By: OzTroopy - Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 09:52

Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 09:52
Unless you are desperate for a vehicle or are limited to purchasing in your immediate area ... I would keep looking around.

My experiences with mitsi in general have been less than favourable - compared to Mazdas and the ford badged versions.
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Follow Up By: chris123 - Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:05

Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:05
I'm looking around the entire Melbourne area
For what I'm looking for and withing my budget there arnt many around.
A few people have said keep looking, but almost all of the ones that fit my budget are way too crap for my liking, the rest get sold quick giving me no time to look around, If I kept waiting for something better when do I stop?
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Follow Up By: OzTroopy - Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:22

Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:22
Point taken ... and if "murphy" has his way ... the right vehicle will become available the day after you have bought something ... LOL

If you are shopping in a metro area ... dont forget that a lot of utes will be flogged out delivery/courier vehicles that may have doubled as weekend personal transport.
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Follow Up By: chris123 - Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:46

Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:46
Not sure why (possibly curious) but when I bought the patrol looked for a bit more to see what kinda deal I got, turned out pretty good. Now that I think about it I'm still seeing whats out there after I bought my daily driver.
This is the right vehicle, a bit more power would be nice..... so would winning something in tattslotto last night ($50mil)
From the car service book said it was getting done in Cobram, so its more likely to have been a farm ute
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Reply By: chris123 - Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:14

Wednesday, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:14
Both have a bull bar, tow bar, driving lamps, air-con, larger tires, steel tray and side steps
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