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Time for another set for the GU Wagon (currently 750 16 Roadgrippers on split rims) and looking a the alternatives available

Another set (only need 4 as i have a unused spare) of Roadgrippers (new trades off Cruiser 70 Series) at $220 per tyre & $30 per tube so looking at approx $900 to stay with the Dunlops

Or try something else available in the 235/85R16 range

Considering the following

Cooper ST
Cooper ST/C
Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor
Goodyear Wrangler MTR
Bridgestone D693 M/T

Any of the above are approx $300-$340 per tyre (i would buy 5 to have a same spare) so i am looking at approx $1650-$1850 to go to another brand & might get approx $140 on the unused spare Roadgripper (4 years old) depending on the Tyre company i deal with

Currently getting 40,000 usable klms out of a set of Roadgrippers (possibly would get a bit more if i rotated them more often than each 10,000) & hoping to better this with another brand

Usage is probably 70% sealed/30% unsealed (but we travel alone so i like tyres with a bit of lug for the unsealed usage) so looking at a fairly open A/T or a M/T (though realise the A/T would probably give better milage than the M/T)

Hard to justify the extra dollars in involved in changing brands but open to convincing

Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated

Regards Don
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Reply By: donk - Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 00:07

Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 00:07
Should have read $1000 to stay with the Dunlops

Regards Don
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Reply By: Member - John - Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 05:48

Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 05:48
donk, I had 750/16 Roadgrippers on my GU ute, got about 30000 k's from them, changed to 235/85 Coopers ST, got nearly 55000k's before I changed them, still had roadworthy tread, much better road tyre than the Roadgrippers, I think you will be pleased if you change to another tyre, not necessarily Coopers, even with the increased cost incurred
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Reply By: Krakka - Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 06:06

Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 06:06
Hi Don, Bridgestone D673 is the M/T, have used these in 235/85/16 X 2 sets, Good on road grip and noise for a M/T. Average about 50,000km with very rare rotation. Not as agressive as some but very good all round.


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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 07:54

Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 07:54
Going through the same exercise for the pajero, with 235/85/16 10 ply ATs.

Like you, mainly road with some dirt.

Coopers ST $280.00 (4BYs here in Brisbane)
BFG AT $330.00
Goodyear S armour $320.00

Going back to my Kumho KL78s at $250.00, even though I paid $205.00 18 months ago, when coopers were $250.00 ea.

Always seem to get 50k to 60k out of a set of tyres, whether they be coopers, bridgestone, toyo, firestone etc.

One suggestion.
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Follow Up By: Members Paul and Melissa (VIC) - Saturday, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:18

Saturday, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:18
Good call with the KL78 or 41 which is almost identical, i have a set that have done about 20k of varied road and off road use and swear by them for the price-very good all rounder and my procomp muddies have lso served me very very wellImage Could Not Be Found
the kumho's in the background(285/75/16) and the procomps(305/70/16) have done about 55k of mainly touring/off road use
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Reply By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 08:15

Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 08:15
G'day Don, hard to go past the dollar difference, as you say. I have had
good results with Firestone Firehawk RMT but not sure if they are available in your size. Paid around $220 for 31 by 15.........oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 22:52

Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 22:52
Same here, after getting my fingers nuked by the Cooper STs, I tried RMTs & couldn't have been happier, better in every respect than the STs, only marginally noisier & didn't feel like driving on 4 time bombs.

ST = S**thouse Tyres
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Reply By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 08:53

Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 08:53
I think all the alternatives you suggest are tubeless tyres. Read on here a while back that they don't like having tubes in them long term as the inside of the tyre is too rough and wears out the tubes...
No personal experience as I have never (and will never) run splits.
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Reply By: olcoolone - Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:04

Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:04
Tyres are a personal thing, every one has there own ideas why this tyre is better then that one but most people have never tested other tyres.

We run two sets of tyres, Cooper ATR's for general road use when not travelling and we had Cooper ST/C's for traveling as most trips were over dirt roads.

We had a good run out of Cooper ATR's and ST/C's, the ST/C's moved around on the road a little bit more then the ATR's

We have since gone to Toyo Open Country M/T tyres due to the Cooper ST/C's being softer in the side wall and stacking them when running low pressure (most tyres have soft sidewalls).

The handling of the ST/C's was very good with low noise.

I would surge st the Cooper ST tyre as it is more suited for blacktop running.

All tyres are a compromise and one tyre will not do every thing fantastically.

The Cooper ST and ST/C are still a All Terrain (A/T) tyre where some of the other ones are Mud Terrain (M/T).

An All Terrain tyre will always handle better and have better on road manors then a Mud Terrain.
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Reply By: Bryan (WA) - Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:16

Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:16
Ive got Goodyeat MTR's on my GQ LWB Patrol. Ive now done over 65k Km's on them and they still have a fair amount of tread on them. Im running 265/75R16's
I do alot of city driving, but want better offroad capabilities when we go away camping and tow the trailer. when we go away the car is loaded up and trailer in tow.
The MTR's have been fantastic tires on and off road - I will be getting them again next year when they will be due for replacing - or maybe the Mickey Thompson MTZ tyres.
The tyres have no chipping at all on them - I have had 1 tyre re-rubber welded (What ever that process is called) after putting a large slice in it going over a cattle grid on the way to Mt Augustus. other people who had arrived while we were there reported they got flat tyres form the same cattle grid.

Hope this helps
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Reply By: Member - Murray R (VIC) - Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 22:25

Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 22:25
Interesting that you only get 40,000 kms out of the roadgrippers, I ran them for years on my old and present Bravo and averaged 85,000 km per tyre set. I ran 30psi on dirt and 35 on hiway with 70% hiway useage and rotation every 10,000. I have used four sets over time but now run bfg AT as got them real cheap their 2/3 rds worn with 70,000 on them. The price for new grippers [205 r 16] or bfg AT or coopers [31-10.5-15] were the same give or take a dollar or two when ATs fitted
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Follow Up By: Member - Murray R (VIC) - Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 22:27

Friday, Jun 26, 2009 at 22:27
As said above they are a personal thing
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Reply By: Thommo1 - Wednesday, Jul 01, 2009 at 13:00

Wednesday, Jul 01, 2009 at 13:00
I drive a GU ute that does 50K per yr running BFG MT - get 100K religously. Secret is keeping the pressures up on the tar - 45psi and rotating them left to right every 5K and then diagonally to the rear at 10K and so on. wear is even and no howl.
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