Canter 4x4

Submitted: Monday, Jun 29, 2009 at 23:28
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Hi all

i'm thinking for buying a 2004 single cab 4x4 canter to replace my 2001 79series ute. Does anyone know the approx fuel usage of the canter . Any info would be great. I will be putting my Carry me camper on it and some other gear, about 1250kg all up. How do you think this will perform in comparision to my 79series???

cheers
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 08:23

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 08:23
Been debating the same. My wife is keen for a Canter and put a Taj Mahal of some sort on the back. I'm not so sure yet!! But a 4.5T (or 6T) GVM, standard rear diff lock and a 4.9 diesel with heaps of torque all sound good. And its the same width as a 200series.

I also have no idea of fuel consumption and would be keen to know, but I think the new common rail motor only came out recently, so might be hard to find good info.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 16:07

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 16:07
Hi Phil,

I have been through this excercise and arrived right back where I started - with the 100 TD, the van and or my swag.

Reasons are :

-That if I go to camp somewhere for a week, every time I want to travel out to do something I would have to pull awnings down , put things away etc .

- When I get back home, the big truck would be a pain in the bum to drive around the burbs, so I would need another car. Big expense. Also, not being used for months at a time, could not be good for the mechanical thingies.

I have given up on the idea - but I still LOVE to look at them and dream.

Willie.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Jul 01, 2009 at 22:32

Wednesday, Jul 01, 2009 at 22:32
You're absolutely right Willie. I'm still dreaming too!!!

Our current setup of sleeping in a swag or tent and easy access to everything in the canopy is a pretty easy way to camp. Just keep thinking a solid roof over the top when it rains would be good, but I think towing would restrict me too much.

The main thing that stops me is the that I still think the 79series is probably the most reliable and solid vehicle you can get. A Canter is probably very good in that respect, but the engine is relatively new, so I'd be the guinea pig testing it out

Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Wednesday, Jul 01, 2009 at 22:51

Wednesday, Jul 01, 2009 at 22:51
Talk about being the guinea pig - like a lot of the Landcruiser 200 owners that found out they can't use their cars on dirt roads cause they FILL UP WITH DUST.
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Reply By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 09:05

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 09:05
Cant help with fuel consumption, but obviously will use more than a cruiser ute.
I've driven them as fitted out in our firebrigade & have to warn you that even with a load of water etc, they ride bloody rough. I imagine that would be even worse with a load under 2 tonne. Compared to your ute it will be a slug
speedwise but will do the job no doubt...go drive one & see what you think.
...oldbaz.
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Reply By: paulnsw - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 09:21

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 09:21
our timber bridge repair gangs use the Mitsubishi Canters and Tritons. Both are bullet proof. Amazed at the work and abuse they cop. The Canters make great campers as our workers buy them instead of trading and convert to campers. Cruise at highway speeds on good roads. You cannot go wrong with a Mitsubishi Canter or Triton.
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Reply By: Horacehighroller - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:02

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:02
For what (ittle) it's worth I have a 1987 2x4 Canter (6T GVM) and use 14L/100KM metro.

Country can go higher at the speed limit.

Peter
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Reply By: Member - ross m (WA) - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:04

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:04
Anyone on here tried the Isuzu 4x4 truck?
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:19

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:19
Good units.
But to be better, they need "super singles" instead of duals and suspension modification to get some artiulation, otherwise they can be very unpleasant on corrugated roads and there is a tendency to shake things to bits.
If you don't do these mods, it will not have the 4x4 capability of your Tojo, or anything like it. If you do, it will still be a bit short of what you are used to, but when you get there, you will have lots more comfort....
It will be heavier than you think.......
Fuel consumption is mostly about speed, frontal area and weight.
We average 18L/100k in the OKA over a full year with lots of 4x4 work and cruising at 85kph. The Canter would not be a lot different doing the same job.

Cheers,
Peter
OKA196 Motorhome
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Reply By: wicket - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:03

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:03
these people sell them with all the mods, coud give you a good idea of fuel usage

http://allterrainmotorhomes.com/
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Reply By: Wisey - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 17:00

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 17:00
Hi ccc

Sorry I can't help about economy, although I drive one in the city.
But if I may give an opinion (2c worth, round it down) about small trucks. Due to the suspension pack you will have a harsh ride whatever you set it up as. A set of airbags ( if avaiable) might soften it a little but the spring pack will be difficult to soften to a comfort pack for touring. Suspension cab and susp' seats will help, extra head room required. The driver usually has a bucket seat of some comfort but the passenger will not have the same luxury ( bench, little or no recline) and not a lot of passenger leg room to extend out in front. You will be seated over the motor, although insulated, will add some extra heat to cabin. Motor and drivetrain are reliable and I'm sure it will be fairly capable off road. Carry 2T and the ride is easier/less harsh, but............
don't be put off if that is what you want/need to get the job done.

Andy
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Reply By: Eric Experience - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 21:19

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 21:19
CCC.
We had one for a test trip. I liked it a lot. The ride is rough if you try to drive fast on dirt roads but a simple change of spring camber and lower tyre pressure helped a lot. The economy of the later turbo models is good about 15/100K. We also tested a Mercedes Sprinter 4x4 and the wife decided the Sprinter was much better and it is, not as much carrying capacity but everything else is better. Eric
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Reply By: Member- Tony C - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 23:08

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009 at 23:08
I had a 2002 Canter 4x4 for a while as a work truck used for rural fencing towing a tractor etc. I found the ride very harsh and as a touring vehicle would have been to rough for me. I had some very expensive gearbox problems to have repaired as well. When it sold I was glad to see it go.
I made the change to a 79 series and was glad I did.
Cheers
Tony
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