Diff Breathers & Gearbox & Transfer Case Breathers
Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 10:20
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Member - John M (NSW)
I am about to fit extended diff breathers to my Patrol GU Truck and then do the LC 100 series.
From details I have read most people seem to run the extension hose high into the engine bay and fit inline fuel filters.
Is this what is considered the most effective methods and are extended breathers considered necessary for the gearbox and transfer cases as they are of similar height when doing river crossings and would be subjected to similar temperature drops and heat transfer.
To date I have dome many deep river crossings in the Patrol without any problems or water in the diffs although I think luck has been on my side.
All advice is welcome.
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Reply By: Member - Allan B (QLD) - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 12:48
Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 12:48
Interesting subject this.
On my Troopy the diff breathers were set by Toyota rather low and could easily have been below water if one got stuck in a stream. I would have thought that Mr Toyota would have known what was OK, but for peace of mind I also raised them and fitted in-line fuel filters.
Originally the hoses terminated at the top with a spring-loaded non-return valve which would allow air to escape but presumably was intended to prevent water from re-entering. I tested them however and found that they were effective in preventing even air from re-entering.
So if the diffs vented expanded air when hot, where does it try to re-enter when they cool? Hopefully not via the submerged axle seals bringing water in with it!
Never heard of anyone actually experiencing this problem but don't wish to be the first! ....... Anyone had real knowledge of this occurring?
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Reply By: RobAck - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 13:25
Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 13:25
Each vehicle and model is different but for vehciles with beam axles front and rear the OE breather is normally a very small vent located on one of the axle tubes. This means that even when driving through quite shallow water, less than hub height, you can wash water over the breather and they ingest water immediately. The LC70 series have an extender but it only goes as high as the chassis rail and the LC100 series are similiar but again vary model by model
Most IFS vehicles, such as Prado, already have the front done but the rear is as per my comments above.
This vulnerability is not
well understood or appreciated given most people think a
snorkel will get them out of trouble. Sadly the
snorkel is only really useful when we are in bonnet height water which for us is very rare. Yet it is common place for most 4WD to drive through water up to wheel height on a regular basis.
The Piranha kit is the best we have found but there are plenty of others around. Don't forget to allow enough slack in the breather lines for
suspension travel, a common mistake
Regards
RobA
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Follow Up By: Inkbandit79 - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 21:24
Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 21:24
I also fitted the piraha kit to my 100 and found it to be perfect the only thing that got me was the price, those cute little blue breathers retail for $4.30 and hose clamps no more than $1.00 each so when it came time to do my transfer and auto i made my own saved myself $70 and now have 4 cute little blue breather's in my engine bay, just shows how much mark up and a plastic bag are worth these days. legris make the breathers if your looking for them. hope this helps
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Reply By: Members Paul and Melissa (VIC) - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 19:41
Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 19:41
Breathers they put in from factory for 4WDs are a joke.fitting those silly one way valves on them just tops it off.for something so important as keeping water out of diffs and the like,i sent all
mine up to the engine bay and stuck cheap fuel filters on the end of them, works a treat. then you look at our adventra and the breather on the front diff goes all the way up under the engine cover so it would have to be submerged past the top of it to ingest water,and its not even a real 4WD!!!
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