GQ patrol with bad front end vibe
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Member - David
Hi all , just wondering if anyone can help out here, my son has a 4.2.petrol GQ patrol, Recentley it has developed a very bad shudder when applying the brakes at about 80kph, just wondering if anyone else has ever had this prob , and if so , could theyplease shed some light , Thanks all , awaiting your responses
DAVE
Reply By: Catherine - Tuesday, Sep 09, 2003 at 12:29
Tuesday, Sep 09, 2003 at 12:29
David
I have the same problem in my GQ. Its a 4.2 diesel, and whenever we go over a rut or any bumpy part of the road at between 70 - 80km an hour, the whole front end shudders, the gear stick wobbles like its about to pop out and the steering just goes beserk. THe only way to stop it is to break really really suddenly, and drop the speed to about 40km an hour, then speed up again slowly.
I have had the problem for ages, and had the tyres replaced, one - because they needed it, and two - hoping it would fix the problem, but no did do.
The next thing we did was got the
suspension checked - that was all fine.
Had a wheel balance and tyre rotation, which stopped it for a bit, but then it came back again.
We still do not know what is causing the problem but for the moment it seems to have stopped, so will wait and see what happens when we start doing the rough stuff again after winter.
Sorry I couldnt help further, but your sons problem really rang true.
Cheers.
Catherine.
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Reply By: Gerry - Tuesday, Sep 09, 2003 at 14:13
Tuesday, Sep 09, 2003 at 14:13
Hi David
Had the same problem myself (although not quite as bad by the sound of it). I tried all the usual things (tyres, alignment/balance, shockers etc.) and nothing seemed to fix it completely. I eventually had it properly checked out by a 4WD specialist and found several things needed doing. Firstly, because I have raised the vehicle by 2 inches, my castor angle was almost non existent. A couple of the rubber bushes at the diff end of the trailing arms were also stuffed - so I had them replaced with offset bushes to bring my castor back to 3.5 degrees. Secondly, the bearings top and bottom of the big steering knuckles on the end of the diff housing were also stuffed with flat spots
well worn into the bearing surfaces. These were also replaced. In all, the above work plus having the CV joints cleaned and regreased while they were out, all new seals and gaskets and a change of oil in the front diff, set me back just under $1500.
Sounds like a lot but my car has done over 320,000 hard k's and this has made an incredible difference - like a new car with no wobbles whatsoever. It took them 2 days to do the job so I reckon it was
well worth it.
I had it done by Alltrac 4WD in
Adelaide - very helpful and very good quality work.
Cheers
Gerry
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Follow Up By: Member - David - Tuesday, Sep 09, 2003 at 16:27
Tuesday, Sep 09, 2003 at 16:27
Hi Gerry thanks for the response , i live in
Adelaide so think a trip to alltracs is in order ............And i would like to thank everyone else who has responded as
well , will keep you all informed when we find out more , might be able to help someone else with the same prob.
Cheers Dave
BTW , we have 5 patrols in our family , this being the first time we have encountered any probs ........they range from a 84 MQ lwb wagon to a 95 4.2 injected lwb wagon and 1 4.2 diesel lwb wagon, have owned patrols since 82 , and wouldnt own anything else ........
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Reply By: duncs - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 10:53
Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 10:53
I'll throw my 2c in.
I had the same problem. Tried all the usual stuff plus king pin bearings. Turned out to be the panhard rod bushes.
If they are worn, and most of them are, it lets the whole front axle move from side to side. Feels sike it is about to fall out. Usually turning one way or the other will stop it for a short time. Next bump or turn or dab of the brake it comes back.
$50.00 at Pedders in Dubbo had me riding smooth.
Good luck
Duncs
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