Windows CE / GPS help please .

Submitted: Monday, Aug 10, 2009 at 21:21
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Just bought a new 5" screen GPS unit - I've managed to unlock it and get to the Windows CE 6 core -
Problem 1 - My desktop can't / won't recognise the unit - just keeps going bing - bong ... Is this a network type thing within CE ?

Problem 2 -- I want to run Oziexplorer CE from the SDMMC card - Do I just copy all files to a folder and do an install from within CE ?

Any help would be good

Thanks

Steve
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Reply By: The Explorer - Monday, Aug 10, 2009 at 21:29

Monday, Aug 10, 2009 at 21:29
Hi - Cant help with your bing bong problem but with respect to OziCe would try the wince_core_runtime_arm.zip version from the ozi website. Unzip this to your PC - copy the resulting folders to the SD card. You will then have to crank up OziCe on the device by way of the OziexplorerCe.exe file.

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Reply By: psproule - Monday, Aug 10, 2009 at 21:32

Monday, Aug 10, 2009 at 21:32
See if you can get it to run Miopocket 3.0. Miopocket is good at restoring the .dll's that are usually removed to make a CE install smaller (and unusable for anything but the original intended purpose).

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Reply By: Member - Tony S (WA) - Monday, Aug 10, 2009 at 21:32

Monday, Aug 10, 2009 at 21:32
I await the replies with interest.
Incidently what breed of gps is it?

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Follow Up By: Member - Tony S (WA) - Monday, Aug 10, 2009 at 21:34

Monday, Aug 10, 2009 at 21:34
Gees when I replied there was not a reply in sight!
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Follow Up By: Mandrake - Monday, Aug 10, 2009 at 21:44

Monday, Aug 10, 2009 at 21:44
Tony -

Its a - you know one of them -
Its a Chinese copy of an iGo Amigo by YF something or other ..
Sirf Atlas IV CPU with Windows CE 6

I "won" it on an auction in e-bay !! $100.00 !!
So I just want to get OziExplorer and my trip map on it to see if it works .

The unlock was easy but now I am stuck .

Cheers

Mandrake - 13 Days and counting ....
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Monday, Aug 10, 2009 at 21:39

Monday, Aug 10, 2009 at 21:39
My 5" GPS will connect but only if I have ActiveSync running on the PC.

It will not appear as an External Drive

Was IGO8 running originally on the GPS ?
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Follow Up By: Mandrake - Monday, Aug 10, 2009 at 21:47

Monday, Aug 10, 2009 at 21:47
Acivesync doesn't even know its there - Windows just keeps bing bonging but failing to connect .

GPS works fine - lousy el-cheapo maps but it got me home from work OK ..

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Reply By: age - Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 07:04

Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 07:04
Mandrake

Are you using Windows XP or Vista ? - ActiveSync on Xp can be troublesome - If using Vista the Mobile Device Center should connnect up to Windows CE 6 no worries - it is heaps better than AS on XP

I am unlocking Win Ce 4.2, 5 and 6 devices regularly - WinCe 4.2 will not talk to Active Sync at all, but will to Windows Mobile Center on Vista.

As stated above, have a look at the Mio Pocket stuff for excellent desktops and skins/better functionality now you are unlocked. GPS Passion and GPS Underground websites have a wealth of information about what you are rying to do

I love grabbing a cheap GPS from the bargain barrell and turning then in Garmin Nuvi's etc

Cheers


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Reply By: Member - Brad S (SA) - Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 09:02

Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 09:02
Hi Mandrake

as previously mentioned you can run OziCE from your SD card. I have done this on several "cheapies". Here are some instructions on how...you made need to figure some of teh details out as each set is a little different. You can also copy OziCE to the NANDFlash...but I would not recommend it...to many chances for things to go wrong.

The easiest way is to load OziCE onto your SD card using a card reader on your PC or laptop...a 4gig non high performance SD should be fine fo rmost maps and the program.
Note: The "cheapies" GPS will not use the newer highspeed high performance cards.

Load OziCE into its own folder. The maps can also be put on the SD in there respective folders or however you like to organise these.
Put SD card into GPS.
After entering your GPS' PIN go to the Settings button on the sceen.
Select Application.
Select magnifing glass icon.
Select the Storage card
Scroll down untill you find the OziCE.exe icon and select by double tapping it.
This takes you back to the application page...select the arrow at the top to go to the Settings page...then the arrow icon again to go to the Big GPS Button
Hit the GPS button...and...
OziCE should load

To get back the original GPS program drill through the menus again but select
- NANDFlash
- iGo8 etc folder
select liGo8.exe

You can transfer OziCE onto the GPS memory using File Transfer on the Application page...but be careful not to delete the Logic Gear Navigation program.

cheers
Brad
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 09:25

Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 09:25
I found with my device- when connected to the PC, I have to 'reset' the device then turn it on before the PC will recognize it !!!



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Reply By: Rut Tearer - Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:54

Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:54
Couple of things you need to do, install the latest version of Active Sync and ensure your PC is up to date with the latest patches and hotfixes. Older versions of Active Sync caused the problems you describe. Installing the latest version will also upgrade your USB driver and then reboot your Pocket PC etc.
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Follow Up By: Rut Tearer - Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:11

Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:11
Here's the link to download version 4.5

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/activesync-download.mspx
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Reply By: Member - Brad S (SA) - Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 14:30

Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 14:30
Mandrake...further to my post above, many of the Chinese eBay specials GPS do not work with any version of ActiveSync thus the SD card method of installing OziCe is the way to go. However, that said, don't give up on trying newer versions of Active Sync.

Cheers
Brad
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Reply By: Mandrake - Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 14:44

Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 14:44
Just a quick THANKYOU to all -

I still can't get Active Sync to work but Windows CE and Ozi is going along nicely

I'm actually in the middle of converting 3 Nat Raster maps - 53,54,55 zones for

the Unit to run ...

With any luck I'll be going home tonight by New GPS Natraster Maps !!

Yeehoo !!

12 Days now - getting very toey !!!

Bought the Frypan and saucepans the other day so that as they say is it !!

I'm as ready as I'm gunna B !!

Cheers

Mandrake
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Reply By: Member -Hunjy (NSW) - Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 21:32

Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 21:32
Mandrake
I run a Ipaq 212 PDA with Ozi CE and I Don't link the pc and PDA together at all. I just convert Raster maps on the pc with the IMG20ZF program and put these on the SD card along with a copy of the OZI PC Data folder, put it in the PDA and load up the maps and tracks through the SD card. So you don't need to connect the PDA and PC together.

Cheers
Mal
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Follow Up By: Mandrake - Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 21:38

Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 21:38
Mal ,

I am now doing exactly what you have done ....

I've been waiting for someone that has used that IMG20ZF programme -

I'm convering zone 54 . ecw file and so far its been running for about 4 hours !!

Is that about right ?? I realise once its done I won't need to do it again for a couple of years ...

But 4 plus hours just for one Raster file ??

Cheers

Mandrake - Topographically challenged !!
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 20:31

Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 20:31
...keep in mind that ecw files work in OziCe so no need to convert unless neccessary.

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Follow Up By: Member -Hunjy (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 20:38

Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 20:38
Mandrake

With the raster maps I use the 250K mosaic Maps as they are seamless.
The way I set up my PDA mapping is to bring up the area you want in the Natmap raster viewer on PC and zoom in or out to get the desired map area being careful not to make it to big ( it will tell you if the map size is to big) then export current view and save it to PC/C:-/OZI/Maps as an ECW file. If you are doing a big trip then you might have to slightly overlap each map.I find that with the smaller maps th PDA handles it better and automatically goes to the next map when you reach the edge of the current map.
After you have saved the map close off raster viewer and open ozi and close off all previous maps
File/import map/ECW map files/import(wait)close.

To place map in PDA
In OZI PC file/save map to imagefile/run IMG20ZF.
In map conversion page
Source map folder C:\oziexplorer-maps
Destination folder C:\oziexplorer-maps.
Tick boxes for maps you want to convert/convert maps(wait).

Once converted copy these files into your SD card and load maps and datta through the SD card and everything should be sweet.

Cheers Mal
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Reply By: Member - Brad S (SA) - Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 20:00

Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 20:00
Mandrake and others

Be aware of the possible limitations in using the NatMap 250K mosacic (700+MB)with OziCE on some of the "cheapie" Chinese GPS. These often have only 64meg RAM & 64MB ROM. This limits the size of the maps you can use. Those with 128MB RAM usually don't have a problem in juggling bigger maps.

You can use the smaller composite Raster NATMaps...often result in anoying blanks on screen when moving from one map area to another. There are two solutions to this using the Ozi Map Marge utility. Firstly merge composite maps or secondly and usually a better looking result is to slice the mosaic into chunks 80MB to 110MB. The 64MB RAM GPS seem to handle this size well. You need to play around with the area you are selecting to get the right file size. This way you get bigger regions than the composite maps and you can name them so they make sense to you, i.e. Flinders Ranges, Grampians etc.
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Reply By: Kyle Hulls - Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 15:59

Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 15:59
You have gotten 1 step further than me. I have purchased a cheapie GPS and i am trying to get to the Windows CE 6 core, unsuccesfully so far.

Are you able to help me? I tried what was said on a different website which was to rename a program called gsfinder.exe to iGO8.exe which would then enable me to open up windows explorer on the device, didnt work

Any help would be great
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Follow Up By: Mandrake - Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 16:14

Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 16:14
Kyle ,

My GPS is made by YF Technologies and I found this on a website -

Make a text file with some numbers in it . ( Any rubbish )

Then rename it to YFgotoCE.BLD - copy this file to the root directory

of the SD card and restart the GPS - In my unit up pops Windows CE 6

and then I run OziexplorerCE ...

So whatever the name of your manufacturer is use the first two letters

instead of my YF above ...

Best to use a seperate SD card as well ... Just to be safe !!

Rgds

Steve


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Follow Up By: Kyle Hulls - Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 17:03

Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 17:03
Thanks for the reply Steve.

I suppose this is what iget for being a cheap skate.

This next sentance may make me sound like a bit of an idiot but oh well. I tried what you said but i have nothing labelled as the root directory on the card. I have simply created the file at the directory that comes up when you insert the card.

I can change the navigation path on the unit but when i change it to ozi ce it comes up with a chinese error.

Any other ideas?

Kyle
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