Toyota HZJ75 L'Cruiser Ride Comfort - Suspension vs Seats

Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 22:15
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I would like to improve the ride/comfort in my 75 series Cruiser - as many others would, no doubt. Good seats (KAB) are v. expensive at around $3,000 a pair.

I'm wondering how much a good suspension eg, complete Old Man Emu could improve the ride. Maybe I could then mount some lesser quality seats as well.

Any experience or comments appreciated, Thanks, Ian


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Reply By: Serendipity of Mandurah (WA) - Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 23:50

Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 at 23:50
Hi Ian

I got sick of my old seat and half in my HJ75. Hunted around for some bucket seats but was shocked at prices. Best I could do was 300 or 400 for magna seats.

One day I was down at the recycle area at the local dump in Darwin and there was a pair of holden commodore seats - they wanted $35 for the pair. Snapped them up.

A bit of welding a frame that bolted to the original cruiser fixings and then the seats bolted to that again. Best move. Very comfortable. A bit higher to sit but no problems. Ended up moving states and reregistering the car with no problems.

Only image I could find - we were on the road in Queensland somewhere.

David


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Follow Up By: Imstat - Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:07

Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:07
Thanks a lot David,

Your seats sure look comfy and leave some useful space in between. The price was 'right' too - a long way from $3,000!! Many thanks.

Cheers, Ian
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Follow Up By: Serendipity of Mandurah (WA) - Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 08:46

Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 08:46
Hi Ian

They were very comfy seats with good lumbar support and height adjustable. I made a two box centre console to fit inbetween. You can see the black padded top of one and the smaller skinny one next to the handbrake.

For your suspension - for the price you could try what I had on this one - with coil on leaf springs - a lot cheaper. Again I found the coil springs at the same recycle centre. I just recently replied to another thread on suspension. Doesn't make the ride harder but did pick up the rear by about 50mm and when I loaded it up it did not drop its arse - just seemed to get tighter. The coils came into play at that stage.

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Follow Up By: Atta Boy Luther - Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 08:57

Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 08:57
How did you fit the coil springs please .
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Follow Up By: Serendipity of Mandurah (WA) - Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 09:12

Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 09:12
Hi Luther

At the top I welded a 5mm angle to the chassis with a 50mm pipe welded to it on the downward angle. At the bottom I fabricated a 3mm plate U section of three plates welded together with a 50mm pipe welded upwards. The bottom just sits over the spring loose. To get the spring in there I needed to drop the rear connection off and right down to the ground - even lifting the ute as high as possible to squeeze the spring in there. Of course if you had a set of spring compressors (cheap enough from supercheap) you could put them in easier.

When living in Darwin your vehicle must be pit inspected every year - it passed with these coil helpers and the bucket seats for another 3 years before I moved to WA. In WA I had to re-register for this state - no problems with the seats or the springs or the 12ht turbo diesel I had put under the bonnet.

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Follow Up By: Atta Boy Luther - Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 09:13

Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 09:13
Much appreciated , thanks .
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Reply By: Atta Boy Luther - Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:06

Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:06
First of all , go to a wreckers and get some HEIGHT ADJUSTABLE bucket seats . Holden or ford are good . Then go to a good suspension place and ask about taking some leaves out and buy yourself a set of air bags for the rear air bags
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Follow Up By: Imstat - Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:21

Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:21
That sounds like a good solution thanks. My touring is only with my camping back on my tray - I don't tow. The Air Bags could be just the shot. Cheers, Ian (Thanks for the link).
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Follow Up By: Member - Leigh (Vic) - Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 09:09

Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 09:09
Look at the Firestone bags, kit No.2115. Cheaper if you buy from the USA. Cheers
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Reply By: Mr Pointyhead - Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 08:39

Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 08:39
After market seats really do help. I picked up a recaro drivers seat for my HZJ105 for $800 including mount from the trading post, so if you search the trading post and similar (ebay etc) good deals do come up occasionally.

However, the other thing to be wary of is the legality of fitting the different seat and its impact on the roadworthyness of the vehicle. Unfortunately in Australia this varies from state to state, so you need to check out what has to be done for your state.


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Reply By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:48

Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:48
If you let me have your email address I will send you some photos of the brackets I made for fitting bucket seats to my Troopy.

nzrees@yahoo.com

KK
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Reply By: Volvo driver - Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 21:18

Wednesday, Aug 12, 2009 at 21:18
l have KAB 411 bases under my original seats in my 80 series, dunno how much they cost, on it when l bought it but they are TERRIFIC, specially if you've got a dodgy 50+ yr old back,
they're weight adjustable and spring loaded,
only problem is rear passengers have to keep their feet clear of the bases when 4wding in the rough stuff as they go up 'n' down a fair bit,
l'd have another set tomorrow, even if l never went near the bush again
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