Tow Ball care

Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:16
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Just cleaning the troopy and I look at the greasede tow ball and all I see is dirt ground into the grease.
Whats the opinion, To grease or not.
I have always kept a smidgin of grease on the ball but recently my Mate said that it was far better to leave it dry so that it gathers no dirt and dust.

Jenko

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Reply By: DIO - Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:22

Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:22
WD 40 or equivalent.
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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon K (SA) - Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 15:41

Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 15:41
I towed a heavy trailer for 12 years everyday and never greased. Thinking about it now i don't think it ever sqeaked either.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 14:09

Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 14:09
Prefer mine dry and no grinding paste.







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Reply By: vk1dx - Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 14:41

Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 14:41
When not in use ours is taken off and wrapped up. I hit my shins too many times.

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Reply By: DCTriton - Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 15:18

Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 15:18
My old man always advised me never to grease the ball or the coupling, I never questioned it and it became my habit also - I bought a new towball from a trailer manufacturer 3 weeks ago and it came with a warning about grease, it's habit of trapping dirt and the damage this dirt can cause to the mechanical systems inside the coupling, potentially leading to a failure... On the same note, I know plenty of people who always grease the ball and have never had an issue...
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Reply By: Ian & Sue - Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 15:50

Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 15:50
Dont you GladWrap it as suggested by Ted? Sorry just cant resist I used to love Kingswood Country
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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 15:51

Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 15:51
I have been a Caravaner for 30 years and have always regularly cleaned and greased the vehicle tow ball and van coupling. So far have only ever replaced one tow ball.
I do not use much grease but it is a lithium based grease in a pressure pack.
Power Plus Lithium base Spray Grease.
When cleaning the ball and coupling I liberally spray with WD40 which breaks down any residual grease and crud then simply wipe clean.

I should add that the current van is an off roader and does a lot of dirt roads and tracks.

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Reply By: Flywest - Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 17:07

Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 17:07
Most of my life I was a no grease on my balls man - but later in life I struck one particular ball and coupling that just would NOT uncouple without use of a long crow bar, while someone else jumped up and down on the rear of the trailer, to lever them apart!

They would couple up without grease, but no way would they uncouple.

Something to do with the angle of a 4wd onto a standard 14 inch wheels on the trailer, and the slloping angle on the towing vehicle due to the uphill driveway when I reversed the boat trailer into the car port.

Anyway a slightest smear of grease was all it took to be able to uncouple that trailer bye hand in future so I became a grease convert.

There's nothing more frustrating that not being able to get a trailer off - used to wind up the jockey wheel, and that would just jack the rear wheels of the 4wd off the ground!

Imagine having to take a crow bar with you every where you go to get your trailer uncoupled.

Grease is a PIA on the tow ball - not just because it traps dust and turns into grinding paste - but when you walk into your tow ball and bust your shins, you also get grease on your long pants which just adds insult to injury.

Grease them balls is my new motto.

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Follow Up By: Fred G NSW - Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 19:27

Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 19:27
with all that grease on your "balls" there'd be no hair on your palms LOL LOL
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Reply By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 17:44

Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 17:44
I Used to use dry lube on ours but gave it away. Seems to me what ever you use collects dust & you end up with a grinding paste.

I reckon it would take a long time to wear a ball out & anyway a new one is fairly cheap. Plus when I used to lubricate it I now & then got a bit of grease over clothes etc. SWMI got some grease on her white slacks one day & all hell broke loose as it was apparently my fault! New slacks cost me a lot more than a new tow ball LOL

I still use a bit of dry lube on the weight distribution pivot points just to stop the horrible noise when turning. Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Brenton W (SA) - Wednesday, Aug 19, 2009 at 23:38

Wednesday, Aug 19, 2009 at 23:38
How come its our fault if thr fairer sex gets grease on there clothes, but if we get grease on our clothes we would be told we should have looked where we were going!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL no justice in this world.........
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Follow Up By: Member - Timbo - Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 13:03

Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 13:03
Why don't you just put one of those rubber/plastic covers on the ball when not in use? Or if you don't want to shell out the $3-10, get an old tennis ball, cut a hole in it and pop that over the ball?! :)
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Reply By: Atta Boy Luther - Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 18:31

Tuesday, Aug 18, 2009 at 18:31
Oh my god there is dirt on the tow ball of the troopy .
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Reply By: Member - John F (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 19, 2009 at 07:55

Wednesday, Aug 19, 2009 at 07:55
Jenko,

My understanding is that that on proper ball type couplings (not the toy pressed type) the ball is steel and the other components are caste iron, containing inclusions of carbon, a dry lubricant.

Don't subscribe to Dio's theory of WD40 - it will dissolve any lubricant present and judging by its viscosity provides zip lubrication itself.

IMHO.

Regards, John.
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Reply By: Roughasguts - Wednesday, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:41

Wednesday, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:41
I use a bit of silicone spray, no muck and helps keep the rust off.
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Reply By: PradOz - Wednesday, Aug 19, 2009 at 14:50

Wednesday, Aug 19, 2009 at 14:50
Last xmas i had major dramas of external lights (brakes, blinkers etc) on my van not working correctly. the problem i was told was because the van hadnt earthed correctly/properly thru the towball.

so my question is - if the towball is greased, does it impede the earthing contact between it and the coupling?

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Follow Up By: Member -Dodger - Wednesday, Aug 19, 2009 at 15:05

Wednesday, Aug 19, 2009 at 15:05
You should have a dedicated earth return from the towed vehicle back to the towing vehicle. Either via the electric connection for the lights or via an anderson plug, both is gooderer.
This eliminates any problem with earthing.
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Follow Up By: Member - Timbo - Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 13:05

Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 13:05
I agree with Dodger - you shouldn't rely on the towball for earthing. One of the pins in the electrical connector should be an earth.
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Follow Up By: PradOz - Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 14:54

Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 14:54
Thanks guys - I agree with you both. I do have earth as you both say but i still had problems with all my external lights.

It was about 3am and i was already packed up ready to throw kids in car and go when i went to check lights were all ok. SWMBO at the time couldnt believe i was all packed and ready to go at the time i had planned to leave, normally always running late, but then the problem struck. Anyway after an hour stuffing around with them i said we would leave and see how the lights went as we drove. We had to go past an auto elec friend mate at time and we would be driving past around 5am so thought worst case wake him up :)

Anyway when i drove down our driveway i heard a small bang noise at towball and it seemed to fix light problem. It appears the towball and hitch hadnt connected in 100% as i was on a slight slope when connecting. It was all up tight at the time but must have not been seated in 100% or 100% correctly?

All went ok on drive to our xmas hols. when i was there i mentioned it to my brother who had a look and after eliminating all other earting areas on van and car the problem only reoccured when i hitched van and car together but did not do up tight.

My brother says that sometimes even a loose towbar hitch/tongue that slides or moves about in the cars towbar hitch receiver (whatever you call it on car) can recreate a similar earthing dilemma in some setups. i am not sure but know it gave me grief at the time. Maybe interesting to see what happens if others try it and see what happens.

So if the van does earth thru the hitch point to a car, does the grease interfere with that or does grease actually help it earth better? (i leave mine all dry now - no grease)

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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 17:41

Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 17:41
What about Orac couplings?

They have grease nipples on them.

Should, or could they be OK without grease.

I have just bought a second hand camper and have replaced the grease nipples on the orac coupling and greased them yesterday, and I am now not sure I have done the right thing.
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Reply By: franken - Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 23:22

Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 23:22
Remember in the good old days when towballs were brass (self lubricating, was the term).
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Reply By: mazcan barry - Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 17:24

Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 17:24
hi

there is a lanolin based spray and is ideal for towballs it leaves a thin lube film on the ball but does'nt attract dust like normal grease and not as dirty i pop an old tennis ball on t/ball when not towing
in respect to your wiring problem yes you should have earth return system and you need to follow the earth wire back through to the battery as there will be a bad joint somewhere in line to the battery and that includes 7pin plug and base connectors try gently spreading the earthpin on the trailer plug slightly and spray some crc in the connector holes the t/ball coupler has got nothing to do with an earth return and you should be able to get the lights to work even if the trailer isnt on the towball with the above system
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Reply By: Member - Ed. C. (QLD) - Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 18:01

Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 18:01
Y'all might like to try some o' this >>

Molybond 122L

After years of greasin' me balls, I've recently switched to this stuff..

I also use it between the spring leaves (stops 'em creakin') as well as on the non-greasable shackle pins/bushes during assembly..

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