So Toyotas have problems too, what r they?

Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 10, 2003 at 22:05
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With all the information abounding on the web about Patrol failures and having seen some myself I have searched for Landcruiser problems and find scant info of camshafts (200k+?) and water pumps as well as weak diffs.
I am looking to buy an 80 or if the accountant approves 100 series but am interested in any known or associated problems past or present.
Without the usual brand bias please provide details of real failures not my brothers mates 1/2 cousins dog on the Gunbarrel ....... stuff!
I currently have a 99 Hilux since new and have had a virtually trouble free run so far. I am a bit biased but I feel from what I have seen and experienced.
Thanks in advance,
Slammin
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Reply By: Bob - Wednesday, Sep 10, 2003 at 22:12

Wednesday, Sep 10, 2003 at 22:12
I have had cruisers for about 10 years now and had no problems at all. You'll enjoy the move from a small 4wd to a full sized one. Good luck with your purchase.
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Reply By: Member - Eric- Wednesday, Sep 10, 2003 at 22:13

Wednesday, Sep 10, 2003 at 22:13
Had 3 100 series cruisers so far and no problems , my 80 series is at 200 kms also still going strong

one of the 100 series has done 195,000 kms , hasnt missed a beat , on gas also Craigs hut 2003
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 10, 2003 at 22:23

Wednesday, Sep 10, 2003 at 22:23
Nobody has heard of the 100 series diffs made of playdo?

or the 80 series that had the the 1hdt engine, had big end problems, which toyota fixed under warranty, and even on cars still today which are one owner, or factory serviced are sorted out.

Sheesh.
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Follow Up By: Fred - Wednesday, Sep 10, 2003 at 23:13

Wednesday, Sep 10, 2003 at 23:13
Nobody at all has Truckster. But we've all heard about your troubles with the little 3litre TD. The only consolation for youis that you're not alone - there are many who've had your problem.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 10, 2003 at 23:19

Wednesday, Sep 10, 2003 at 23:19
There ya go Freddo

or even try www.lcool.org the technical section for a whole list of problems.

have a nice day
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Follow Up By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 08:14

Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 08:14
How about the 5 stud hubs that like to become 4 or 3 stud at speed going around corners. RACV love 'em........
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Follow Up By: cruiser - Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 09:42

Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 09:42
Truckster,

Just for your information, the 1hdt engine was NOT the only one to have a problem. I have a 1hd that also had the bearing problem and after a bit of research on the net I was able to convince Toyota that the problem exists in the normally aspirated diesels as well, and the admitted to me that they share the same bearing shells for ALL diesels manufactured between 91 - 94. End result was Toyota $5700, me $750 and I had the engine removed, new crankshaft, new bottom bearings, new crankshaft bearings, new oil pump and housing and labour. have now done another 40K and so far (touch wood) no problems despite having since had an aftermarket turbo fitted. You can have a win with these guys if you know what you are talking about and stand up to them.

For all those other people out there who own an 80 series or who are just interested, have a look at the following web site.

http://www.ozemail.com.au/~sjwalsh/80_links.html

Have a nice day everyone. See ya in the bush
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Follow Up By: Member - Bonz (Vic) - Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 17:59

Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 17:59
rofl ....When did u get a 3 litre T-Man? I can't believe ppl still think you got one....Still as they say...Think small see all.So many places to go!
So much work to do :0(
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Follow Up By: Slammin - Monday, Sep 15, 2003 at 21:51

Monday, Sep 15, 2003 at 21:51
Cheers Truckster, that was the sort of info I was looking for.
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Follow Up By: Slammin - Monday, Sep 15, 2003 at 21:51

Monday, Sep 15, 2003 at 21:51
Cheers Truckster, that was the sort of info I was looking for.
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Follow Up By: Slammin - Monday, Sep 15, 2003 at 21:52

Monday, Sep 15, 2003 at 21:52
Cheers Truckster, that was the sort of info I was looking for.
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Follow Up By: Slammin - Monday, Sep 15, 2003 at 21:52

Monday, Sep 15, 2003 at 21:52
Cheers Truckster, that was the sort of info I was looking for.
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Reply By: Martyn (WA) - Wednesday, Sep 10, 2003 at 22:37

Wednesday, Sep 10, 2003 at 22:37
Slammin,
I've not had a cruiser as yet, but an 80 series I took out for a test drive a while back had a knackered camshaft and I wasn't that impressed with the drve train, a bit noisey and a few deep down knocks and thuds, may of just been a bad one. When I rebuilt the engine in my Nissan,which I did because I had nothing to do one Saturday, had nothing to do with in the engine condition tut tut. I went to my local engine reconditioners and there was a pile of Toyota camshafts you couldn't of jumped over, the guy explained that it was a weak point. My opinion as usual and yes I know I haven't owned one but these are my own experiences which is what I think you where after.
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Follow Up By: Kev - (Cairns,QLD) - Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 10:46

Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 10:46
The knocks & thuds your refering to would be the constant 4wd running both front & rear driveshafts.
When they get on a bit there seems to be a small amount of drivetrain backlash that clunks when changing gears.

I fixed this by installing a part time kit with free wheeling hubs.
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Reply By: Kiwi Ray - Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 07:58

Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 07:58
Hi Folks
Most 80# and 100# camshaft failures can normaly be attributed to the wrong oil or poor servicing
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Reply By: cruiser - Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 09:43

Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 09:43
Have a look at this site

http://www.ozemail.com.au/~sjwalsh/80_links.html
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Follow Up By: Kev - (Cairns,QLD) - Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 10:42

Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 10:42
Dead link bro !
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Reply By: GUPatrol - Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 12:23

Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 12:23
80 series have a really strong roof, I found out when a friend rolled his in the VIC high country..!!
He now has a 100 series and he has had three front diffs and one clutch.

On a driver training with the club someone in a 100 series had a blown front diff also.
THe body is nicelly put together though...
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Follow Up By: Tony - Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 12:32

Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 12:32
You would have to call that Driver abuse wouldn't you.
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Follow Up By: GUPatrol - Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 12:53

Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 12:53
Not really, he babies this thing....
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Follow Up By: Tony - Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 13:39

Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 13:39
OK then Toyota has a problem aye. The 80 series has a hi-lux front diff maybe the 100 has the same.
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Reply By: Member - Peter [SA] - Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 18:04

Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 18:04
Tony, does that make the lux and cruiser diff interchangeable then ?
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Follow Up By: Tony - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 09:00

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 09:00
The front ones are, as for the year, not sure.
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Reply By: Member - Bruce- Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 21:06

Thursday, Sep 11, 2003 at 21:06
I've had a series of Landcruiser wagons for 20 years all diesel and never had a problem until the current 100 series turbo diesel with independant front suspension.
It has hopelessly low front clearance and I've just replaced the boot on the front left CV joint damaged by a small stick. It handles well on the road either bitumen or gravel but it is not a reliable off the road vehicle unless you want to keep replacing the rubber bits on the front end. Toyota refuse to acknowledge the vulnerable areas of a vehicle they market as "off road".
Great for towing but don't go into the bush.
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Reply By: Flash - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 00:05

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 00:05
Gearboxes, diffs, electronics, camshaft, cracked cylinder head... you name it, mates have had all of the above (Cruiser, Prado, Hilux.) You'd better believe it.
All makes have their problems.
Then I could tell you about my neighbour's 12month old Mercedes (2 wheel drive!!)
What a heap of junk! He keeps hoping somebody will steal it, although usually that's unlikely as it's spending half it's life at the dealers!
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Follow Up By: David N. - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 13:19

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 13:19
Similar experiences among friends... also funny you should mention the Merc.
I was talking to a guy the other day who had just spent mega $$$ rebuilding his '94 Cruiser Diesel with a whopping 130,000 klms- he was "not happy Jan". Owned since new and very well looked after! Only ever towed a small camper trailer and his small box trailer ( not both at the same time!)
I forget how many $$$ he said, but I do remember thinking it was nearly enough to put a yank GM diesel conversion in his cruiser!
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Reply By: Old Jack - Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 12:13

Friday, Sep 12, 2003 at 12:13
early 80 series are know also for read chassis rail cracking when used for heavy towing which is exaclty what a lot of people bought them for!
have a carefull look at anything used for heavy towing
I have had first hand experience of a 80 series with broken front diff housing, the owner of which is the sort of perdantic person who babyies his cars. broke front diff on the road from Hill End to Orange, in the group with us was an old subaru, a series III landrover anda rodeo ute and the group was travelling slow.

as other have said they are not unbreakable(only in the addverts) and like all vehicals they all break down.

would I consider owning one myself? yes if I really needed something that big & heavy to do something special with it.

constant 4x4 models have driveline clunks & noises and uni joints wear, just like other constant 4x4 vehicals.
be prepaired for higher running cost's than your hilux, with vehicals you pay for every Kg you lug around, also ask one of the motoring organisations like the NRMA for there list of disputed fault's they have a big bundle for most cars listing common & not so common problems.

happy hunting

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Follow Up By: Slammin - Monday, Sep 15, 2003 at 21:56

Monday, Sep 15, 2003 at 21:56
Cheers Jack, I'm starting to think about those extra running costs. The way I figure it though is that I hate buying 2nd hand - had some good uns and some dogs. Think I may hold the Lux for a bit longer and see what the manufacturors offer us all in a year.
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Reply By: diamond(bendigo) - Sunday, Sep 14, 2003 at 17:46

Sunday, Sep 14, 2003 at 17:46
dont the 100 series suffer from a saggy rear end if they tow a bit.šqUC3<BuIL
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Follow Up By: Slammin - Monday, Sep 15, 2003 at 21:50

Monday, Sep 15, 2003 at 21:50
Geez Diamond, that sounds like all 4wd's, regardless of brand.
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