Suzuki Grande Vitara- True 4x4 ???

Submitted: Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 16:04
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Can anyone help.Currently i have a Jeep 1998 2.5L T.D. It is getting a bit long in the tooth so i am looking at a Suzuki Grande Vitara 4x4 2.7L to replace it. We have a Coromal F400 camper that weighs in at 1400kg and are planning on doing the Big Lap of Aussie in the near future. Just how good is the Suzuki compared to a truly dedicated 4x4. We dont intend towing the camper to the top of Cape Yorke etc but require a vehicle to get us into the interior and out again and be capable and reliable to enable us to see the sights.
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Reply By: ben_gv3 - Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 16:44

Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 16:44
Define "get us into the interior and out again". Are we talking bitumen only, dirt, sand dunes etc?

GV are very capable vehicles but a 1400kg camper maybe a little too big for it. Whilst the GV has a 1850kg towing capacity I think it cuts it a bit fine with 1400kg, especially hills etc.

They are very reliable and can return decent economy too.
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Follow Up By: jeep cherokee - Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 09:07

Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 09:07
Getting into areas like the Kimberlies,Mitchell falls.We appreciate camping away from civiliation from time to time and hope to go off the beaten track where possible.Obviously areas like Cape Yorke would be off the list and we would leave the camper at a caravan park and tent it.
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Reply By: Neil & Pauline - Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 16:46

Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 16:46
We have the Grand Vitara Diesel. Haven't done a lot of towing but found it handled 1500kgs very well. Off road the only thing I would suggest is to fit at least all terrain tyres as I have found the standard highway tyres, whist I have not got stuck , feels not as good for traction as I would like.

Neil
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Reply By: tazbaz - Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 16:57

Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 16:57
I very nearly bought a GV last year to tow my Jayco Eagle Outback, but found out that the ball weight is 80 kilos, whereas the Jayco required 110 kilos. Bought a KIA Sorento TDI instead and very happy with it, but would have preferred the GV as its smaller and I think a bit better finished than the KIA. The KIA is a "dedicated 4x4" and I think the GV is also.
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Reply By: teabags - Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 19:53

Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 19:53
Recently decided that it was time to replace our faithful NM Pajero V6. Looked at all options.Tojo and Patrol too big. Love our old Paj but new TD too expensive. Liked the look of the TD Suzuki but for us the low ball weight ruled it out. Finally got out new Kia Sorento CRDi EXL six weeks ago. 2800kg towing capacity with 280kg ball weight. Great deals at present as new soft roader model sorento on the way. The finish is excellent, at least equal to the Suzi, great to drive, and tows our 1.6 tonne poptop van effortlessly. Using around 9.1l/110k mixed city/highway running. Our one trip with the van was onnly 400k so bit short to quote figyures but seems very economical towing, especially after v6 petrol pajero
Have a look at the Sorento, you wont be "sorrie" you did.

cheers
Alan
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Follow Up By: teabags - Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 20:03

Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 20:03
Forgot to mention that the Sorrie is a true 4x4, with 2wd mode(rear wheel drive) 4hi and 4low range. The base model has an LSD but other models have traction control and esp. First impressions are that it is a very capable 4wd with the only real limitation compared to the big 2 being lack of ground clearance. Ground clearance is adequate for most people.
cheers
Alan
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Follow Up By: Shaver - Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 06:56

Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 06:56
Was under the impression that the next Sorrento will be only have High Range, so not a true 4wd.
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Reply By: Ian & Sue - Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 21:28

Thursday, Aug 20, 2009 at 21:28
I bought a Suzuki Grande Vitara in 06 and found out to my horror that whereas the previous model had a 100Kg ball weight my model had been downgraded to either 80 or 90kg sorry cant quite remember. I do remember that I had intended to purchase a small Coromal side door to tow around and ended up only able to buy the rear door Coromal 401. I did have a lot of fun with it and it gave us quite an insight into what we really wanted in a van.

The Suzi itself is a true 4WD with high and low range but dragged its belly on really soft sand on the beach and anywhere else there where ruts come to that. Otherwise it was a great little performer, economical, comfortable and very reliable. Sad to see it go but we too are planning the Big Trip next year and it just wasnt going to be able to do what we want. Still it gets to go on its own "big trip" as the person that bought it intends to tow it behind his bus.

Cheers
Sue

Jeep Rubicon Wrangler & Coromal Pioneer Corvair.
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Reply By: Member - Greg T (ACT) - Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 07:08

Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 07:08
Hi,
The bride and i had a GV xl7 2.7ltr for a number of years. took it everywhere the bigger 4wds went and surprised a lot of people with it.

I put a 1 inch lift with spring spacers, it got the underbelly off the ground a bit and did the job nicely.

Could it go around the block, yes

Could it tow anything other than a 6x4 box trailer, no

We had a H/D tow bar on it and the down ball weight was the killer. the plate on the tow bar says 140kg and the cars limit says 80kg.

This is the only reason we got rid of it, as we want to get a Jayco outback camper. a good deal came up and we got the patrol..


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Follow Up By: Member - Greg T (ACT) - Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 07:10

Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 07:10
to add to that, the xl7 version was a true 4wd with hi and low range transfer.

it also had live rear axle (which does not make it a true 4wd, but a lot better than the IRS)
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Reply By: jeep cherokee - Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 08:54

Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 08:54
Thanks to all for the replys, i didnt realise the ball weight was so low and that will be a problem as the camper already comes in at 132 kg. So it looks like the Suzi is off the list. I will have to do more research.
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Follow Up By: GHThommo - Saturday, Aug 22, 2009 at 17:28

Saturday, Aug 22, 2009 at 17:28
We have a 2005 GV and as others have said the tow ball weight is 85 Kg so how you can possibly tow the spec of 1850 Kg is beyond me. But a friend just bought a new model diesel with a non Suzuki tow bar (dealer didn't have a Suzi one to fit) and it is rated at 200 Kg on the tow ball although the over all capacity is only 1850 Kg.

Could still be a possibility for you.

Thommo
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Follow Up By: teabags - Saturday, Aug 22, 2009 at 23:20

Saturday, Aug 22, 2009 at 23:20
Ballweight specified by manufacturer of vehicle and capacity of the towbar are two seperate things. In this case if the towbar is rated at 200kg this doesn't over-ride the Suzuki ball weight limit if 80kg. The lower of the two figures applies. Changes to suspension, adding a wdh, nothing will increase the legal limit of 80kg max ballweight.

Alan
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Follow Up By: GHThommo - Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 10:25

Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 10:25
Hey Teabags,

Just checked the Suzuki site and it gives the folowing specs for the diesel. When I saw my friends towbar I thought they must have changed the specs but as you say the manufacturer's override everything else. Still begs the question of how you can tow 2000 kg if you can only put 85 kg on the tow ball.

Kerb weight minimum (kg)# 1,630
Gross vehicle weight rating (kg) 2,170
Towing capacity
Braked (kg) 2,000
Unbraked (kg) 750
Tow ball download (kg) 85

Thommo
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