Fitting Coolant Alarm to Plastic Radiator Tank
Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 09, 2009 at 22:14
ThreadID:
72154
Views:
4616
Replies:
12
FollowUps:
9
This Thread has been Archived
kwk56pt
I have a Aisat instruments coolant alarm which I had planned to transfer from my old to my current vehicle. The probe on this alarm is designed to be fitted to the top tank which in this case is plastic. I am led to believe the tank can be drilled and a thread tapped in. I am apprehensive about this as the thickness of the tank is unknown and I am concerned it might fail on some corrugated road one day.
My alternatibe is probably a engine saver which has a purpose built adaptor / probe to fit into the top hose. Any ideas on how I can still utilize my Aisat alarm or should I throw that aside. The vehicle is a 2002 3litre diesel Rodeo
Reply By: Member - G N (VIC) - Wednesday, Sep 09, 2009 at 23:10
Wednesday, Sep 09, 2009 at 23:10
good Q and look forward to reply.
dont know brand but there is one made in WA i think who would have a plan i am sure
rgs
gn
AnswerID:
382588
Reply By: Member - Ed. C. (QLD) - Wednesday, Sep 09, 2009 at 23:56
Wednesday, Sep 09, 2009 at 23:56
rubnutsAerobolt has a few of 'em up to 8mm...
Dunno where you'd get bigger ones in Oz ?
(If ya find out, let me know;-))
| Confucius say.....
"He who lie underneath automobile with tool in hand,
....Not necessarily mechanic!!"Member My Profile Send Message |
AnswerID:
382593
Reply By: Member - Allan B (QLD) - Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 08:30
Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 08:30
For my alarm I used a 4mm stainless steel machine screw with nuts & washers through the plastic top tank. Positioned it just near the top hose inlet spigot where I could get access to insert the screw from inside the tank with
the nut on the outside. Ran a pair of nuts onto the screw before insertion to project the electrode 10mm below the tank top. Works a charm.
One thing I did find however was that leakage of coolant occurred up along the thread passing between the screw and nut. Some Loctite on the thread fixed that.
I would not trust a screw or self-tapper screwed through the tank. Nor would I trust an expanding rubber nut. The rubber is not rated for the heat and with time could fail and expose a rather large hole in the tank. At least your alarm would warn you!
AnswerID:
382608
Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:07
Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:07
Redarc make a unit too - they have a fitment designed for plastic tanks too.
Do I have it right, in that these units use the coolant to ground a circuit ? If so, I guess any means at all that you can establish to get the insulated probe into the top level of the coolant will do. ?
AnswerID:
382612
Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:22
Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:22
In-line adaptor
Something like this might be the go. It is similar to the set-up that Engine Saver utilises and means that you don't have to alter your radiator at all. They come in various diameters.
Cheers
Roachie
AnswerID:
382615
Follow Up By: kwk56pt - Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 14:10
Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 14:10
Thanks Roachie, this is the solution I had envisaged but until now could not find it. I have emailed them re the adapter
FollowupID:
650235
Reply By: Member - John - Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:25
Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:25
Hi, if your radiator hose is 34mm internal, I have an adaptor to fit. Very similar to the one Roachie listed, but not "GO FAST" purple, it is silver, lol. Let me know if you are interested. John
AnswerID:
382624
Follow Up By: kwk56pt - Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 14:13
Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 14:13
Silver would be great John but.......mines about 38mm internal. I appreciate the help though......Peter
FollowupID:
650236
Reply By: mowing - Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:36
Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:36
Had the same problem with my Redarc unit that I purchased. Previously had one in a 60 series which of course had the metal tank. The RV troopy that I now have has the plastic tank. The radiator guy made up a piece of copper pipe with the flanges on both ends (like the radiator has on the top/ bottom inlet/outlet. He welded
the nut style fitting to it and the sender just screws in perfect!
Cheers
Mark
AnswerID:
382630
Follow Up By: kwk56pt - Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 14:08
Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 14:08
Thanks Mark, I assume the top radiator hose is cut and the fitting inserted ?
FollowupID:
650234
Follow Up By: mowing - Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 14:29
Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 14:29
Yep, I actually purchased another top radiator hose and left it with him to work with so he could get it spot on and I didn't have to leave the vehicle with him. The original hose I will use as a spare.
Cheers
Mark
FollowupID:
650239
Follow Up By: kwk56pt - Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 15:13
Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 15:13
Do you mind if I ask what that exercise of having a adapter made cost ?
thanks Peter
FollowupID:
650242
Follow Up By: mowing - Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 16:51
Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 16:51
$82.50 GST inclusive. ( I didn't
shop around given the price)
The Redarc unit was about $250 and to fit was about $110.00 by auto electrician.
Not cheap but if I dump coolant through a burst hose or stick through radiator, it could look very cheap compared to a $15K motor
Cheers
Mark
FollowupID:
650256
Reply By: Member - John - Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 17:37
Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 17:37
This is what you are after.
bay SILVER 38mm adaptor
AnswerID:
382655
Follow Up By: kwk56pt - Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 19:34
Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 19:34
Thanks
John yes looks good. I measured my radiator top outlet which is 38mm but the lip the hose goes over is 40mm so I have emailed to see what size I need, probably 38mm ?
Obviously the bigger tapped hole is for a temp probe but what is the smaller threaded screw hole for ?
FollowupID:
650274
Reply By: Member - Allan B (QLD) - Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 17:42
Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 17:42
If you are reluctant or unable to put a hole in your top tank, or if it is a metal tank, an alternative is to place the electrode in the top radiator hose.
Use a 6mm stainless machine screw (full-length thread) positioned at the top of the hose and at least 20mm from the end of the radiator hose spigot. Drill an undersized hole in the hose so that the screw is a tight fit. Use a large-headed screw or place a stainless washer under the head and use a sealant between the head and the washer or coolant may leak up the thread. Use another washer on the outside then use a second nut to secure the cable lug.
At least if you stuff-up the hose whilst fitting the electrode, a new hose is cheap compared to damaging the radiator tank.
AnswerID:
382656
Reply By: Darrin - Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 22:26
Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 22:26
I used an Engine Saver (www.enginesaver.com.au) under hose sensor, avaliable seperate from the Engine saver kit, and used it with an Aqua Alert Unit.
Darrin
AnswerID:
382695
Follow Up By: kwk56pt - Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 23:12
Thursday, Sep 10, 2009 at 23:12
Thanks Darrin I did not realise they were available seperately. Some ok solutions where I could not find one before so it looks one way or another my Aisat Coolant alarm will live on........Peter
FollowupID:
650300
Reply By: Member - John - Friday, Sep 11, 2009 at 05:04
Friday, Sep 11, 2009 at 05:04
G'day, the small hole is for the earth lead.
John
AnswerID:
382709
Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, Sep 11, 2009 at 08:59
Friday, Sep 11, 2009 at 08:59
[fi]/40091.75/Forum/Pic_46[/
$20 on ebay,,, all sizes. Michael
AnswerID:
382729
Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, Sep 11, 2009 at 09:01
Friday, Sep 11, 2009 at 09:01
Image Could Not Be Found
FollowupID:
650340