Dual Battery tray for Prado 120 Diesel - which brand hence which position

Submitted: Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 15:00
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Hello,

further to my research on dual battery systems it comes down to which battery tray as it decides where it is positioned.

TJM have them on front drivers side and ARB have them rear passenger side of engine.

it would seem there is more stuff to move with the ARB tray.

Can someone share any experience or maybe highlight different tray??

Have opted for the Optima D34M battery for the Aux and between Rotronics and Redarc for system at the moment

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Reply By: ABR - SIDEWINDER - Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 15:14

Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 15:14
Fit the tray to the drivers side behind the headlight.

The TD120 is very easy as you don't need to move any power steering bits.

I will post a picture for you in a short while.

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Follow Up By: ABR - SIDEWINDER - Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 15:22

Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 15:22


This is a picture of the petrol model, so ignore the power steering reservoir you see.

Note: Battery must clear the radiator spout (yellow arrow).

It is important that the top battery bracket is bolted to the cross-member for strength and to stop the battery rocking as this can cause the wheel arch to crack.

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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 15:35

Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 15:35
Hi Snaggles
I have a 120 Series Diesel and went for the Piranha. Fits like a glove in front of the air cleaner. The most important thing to remember in to mount it correctly. I was going to replace the battery bracket that secures the battery to the tray. I was told under no circumstance to do this, because as you can see, the retaining bracket is also supported above the front headlight. There were examples before this upgrade where corrugated roads were tearing the inner guards by the weight and movement of the cradle. Mounted the way that it is, there is no movement what so ever and I can assure you we have ventured over some VERY rough roads. The roads were so corrugated, they cracked the brackets for the bull bar, yet the battery compartment was in tact. It was very easy to fit and used existing holes that were there.

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Follow Up By: RoberHL (SEQ) - Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 15:46

Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 15:46
This may be the better way to go.
As my sister had the second battery mounted on the passenger side (not her choice) 12months ago & i had to drive it a couple of wks back & the left side
suspension has sagged.I told her,she replied is that what has caused the sag.
She did not know why until then.

Hope yours don't.

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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 15:54

Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 15:54
Hi Bob
I have had dual batteries in various vehicles for many years. The Pajero was mounted on the passenger side back against the firewall and never had any problems and was there for over 10 years. If your sisters vehicle sagged, it sounds more like a suspension problem, rather that the fitment of a battery. Has she had a second opinion, as this seems very odd.

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Follow Up By: RoberHL (SEQ) - Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 16:32

Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 16:32
Stephan, it is obviouse to me that it may be the suspension.
I seem to remember on this forum some time ago where some one had problem with the suspension saggin after a while whether or not caused by the extra weight of the battery i am not sure,the car is only 18mths new.
She was going to sell it last i spoke with her as she sold their van.
They had to stop travelling as her husband had dimentia & getting worse.

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Follow Up By: snaggles - Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 21:04

Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 21:04
Hello Stephen,

what isolator system did you set-up?

Been doing a fair bit of resaerch to set up the car for summer kicking in.
Isolator system looking strong between Piranha, redarc and rotronics.

Dont hear much wrong about Rotronics however more expensive! Redarc seems to be very reliable and reasonably priced.

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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 21:35

Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 21:35
Hi Snaggles
Many years ago when I had my first dual battery system, the isolator was a Rotronics and only lasted about 15 months and was dead. I was not very happy with that and have run ever since Piranha. On our last Pajero, it was still going strong 10 years later. When I brought the Prado, the old type that I used was well out of date and installed the new DBE 180S on the advice on one of the two major four wheel drive stores. It has been in now for over 2 years and no problems. Fitted up neat on the passenger side firewall, and again very easy to install and set up.

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Follow Up By: snaggles - Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 21:52

Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 21:52
Hello Stephen,

so you are very happy with the Piranha system, have read and heard very good reports on them.

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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Tuesday, Sep 29, 2009 at 20:32

Tuesday, Sep 29, 2009 at 20:32
Hi Snaggles
The System has now been in for just on 2 years and still now problems - not that there should be, and also has a 5 year warranty. Very easy and simple to install, complete with all the heavy duty wiring.

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Reply By: Member - Fred B (NT) - Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 16:00

Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 16:00
My battery is fitted drivers side behind headlight for over two years now. had some rough trips, with no problems. Have heard of people having problems having it on the passenger side though.

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Follow Up By: mazcan barry - Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 19:36

Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 19:36
hi
i'm aware the topic is about toyota's but it just may be of interest to you
that on my mazda bravo diesel when i installed a second battery rear left side and near the turbo
i had problems with the battery fluid boiling due to the extreme heat off the turbo constantly overheating the battery this will cause premature failure and at first i thought it was the alternator overcharging causing the battery to boil
but after tests revealed no such problems existed i then realized what was causing it
so i obtained a small bonnet scoop and cut a 11cm hole to suit in the bonnet between battery and the turbo the air flowing through took the hot air back and down past the fire wall and cured the above problem
the scoop has a 10cm x2cm front opening slot and has been large enough to be effective
hoping this might be of use to someone in the great 4wd outdoors world of ours
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Reply By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 20:57

Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 20:57
i fit all dual batteries on prados on drivers side much easier
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Follow Up By: snaggles - Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 21:18

Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 21:18
Stuart P,

thanks for advice.

Could you enlighten me with further info on wiring and anderson cable/point?

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Reply By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 21:41

Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 21:41
what do you need to power at the rear of the vehicle?
i use a cole hersee switch to connect the batteries on our emergency vehicle fit outs it seems to be the most robust system out there , i am sure this will provoke many, but in15 years of this type of fitment i have only had one failure. i have had more than one with solenoid type fitments
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Follow Up By: snaggles - Sunday, Sep 27, 2009 at 08:11

Sunday, Sep 27, 2009 at 08:11
Stuart P,

Engel fridge in back and spare power outlet. Ideally would run car radio and internal lights but not too fussed pending on how hard it is to do.

Anderson plug to back for camper trailer which is next purchase. Camp lights

Never heard of a cole hersee, you will have to educate me.

R

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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Sunday, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:21

Sunday, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:21
cole hersee switch is a round manual type switch has options 1 ,both, or 2

i would suggest 10 b&s cable (can now buy it in a twin sheath form) to an anderson plug or the narva 12 gang trailer plug, which has the facilities for trailer and anderson plug options . i think that you can only fit 8b&s wire to it though. 8b&s will still carry 80 + amps you can email your no to waconsofraptors@iinet.net.au if you need verbal advice or some one to talk you thru it
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Saturday, Sep 26, 2009 at 22:42
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