Allloy Bull Bar - shiny finish ??
Submitted: Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 13:45
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True Blue
Have just bought a second hand Prado (03 model) fitted with a factory alloy bar.
Whilst the vehicle has certainly been looked after, the poor old bull bar is very dull compared to the rest of the vehicle.
Is it possible to restore it's appearance? If so with what?
When your cleaning the bar what does the 'black' rub off on the rag indicate?
Carbon in the metal, road grime etc.
Would the rag always go black even on a shiny new bar? Or does it indicate otherwise?
Just wondering.
True Blue.
Reply By: Wizard1 - Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 14:01
Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 14:01
After 7 years and over 180,00 km I have stopped being precious about my Prado.
Some things just aren't worrying about, the shine of your alloy bar, the red dirt stains under the car.
The bar has so many scratches, dents, etc I stopped worrying abiout anything more than washing the buggs off years ago.
I've kept the main part of the inside and paintwork of the truck up to scratch.
You'll get over it too.
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Reply By: Member - Vince B (NSW) - Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 14:44
Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 14:44
Hi True Blue.
We use a metal polish & small buff at work to bring alloy bars back to their original condition.
Cheers.
Vince
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Reply By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 15:39
Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 15:39
Unfortunately some detailers just use an alloy cleaner on the bars and sidesteps which cleans the stains off but sends the alloy flat. They don't have the time to polish the bar back again.
A good metal polish and lots of spare time will do the trick and yes it is normal for the cloth to become black.
If there is any oxidisation on a new bar (it may still be very shiny) the cloth will still go black although not as quickly as from your older bar.
You can use a woolen buffing pad on a drill for a faster shine but may need washing a couple of times.
Cheers
Dave
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Reply By: Gazal Champion - Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 18:20
Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 18:20
Hi True Blue, Just a thought re something my mate found on his cruiser (100 series) and that is that the alloy bar which protrudes above the bonnet slightly reflects light from oncoming vehicles, and anything else that shines light on a road, back into the drivers eyes. Suggest you either blacken the top of the bar or leave it dull if this is the situation with your bar. Just an idea.
Regards, Bruce.
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Reply By: Member - Phantom (WA) - Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 18:49
Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 18:49
Hey True Blue,
I have attached a pic of my Cruiser which I had detailed and they acid washthe alloy bits. It looked so good I didn't want to drive it.
This car is 16 years old and still looks pretty smick.
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Reply By: Member - Lotzi (QLD) - Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 19:21
Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 19:21
Hi True Blue
What I use on the bull bar and wheels is 50/50 brasso and kero, mix it up and put in spray bottle, shake often, rub hard and the black stuff is what your looking for. If real bad use a bit of vinegar and lemon steelo pads, not to hard and then the mix.
Happy rsi
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Follow Up By: Dave(NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 29, 2009 at 14:04
Tuesday, Sep 29, 2009 at 14:04
That's what I used to polish fuel tanks & bullbar, Being liquid its easy to rub back off.
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Follow Up By: Member - Lotzi (QLD) - Tuesday, Sep 29, 2009 at 17:10
Tuesday, Sep 29, 2009 at 17:10
Gday Dave
They'll work it out, apart from autosol, this works good.
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Nolo (Brisbane) - Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 19:44
Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 19:44
The CT people (Truck Wash etc) make a product called Alushine which is very good. Available from Supacheap in a 1L bottle. They also make a cleaner product which I cannot remember the name of right now. This is an acid and is good for cleaning old oxidisation off before polishing. You probably only need the Alushine. The more black rub you get off, the more polished result. Lots of elbow grease but the result is worth it. Good luck.
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Reply By: Member - Greg T (ACT) - Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 20:38
Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 20:38
braso does it for me every time.
dont mix it, just plain old braso. it will come up like brand new
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Reply By: Member - Ian H (NSW) - Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 21:32
Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 21:32
Hey true blue,
I believe the black that comes off aluminium when it is rubbed is actually graphite but I stand to be corrected on that. Ian
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Reply By: Robnicko - Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 22:49
Monday, Sep 28, 2009 at 22:49
clean the bar with soap and warm
water first. Dry it off then using a heat gun warm it up. Then use brasso/autosol whilst still warm. The heat allows the polish to work in and clean better resulting in a mirror finish quickly. That's how Simmons wheels would polish the rim outers on thier polished alloy rims.
With this method you will notice the rag go black alot quicker because the black is caused by heat which brings the dirt to the surface.
Rob
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Follow Up By: Fab72 - Tuesday, Sep 29, 2009 at 09:50
Tuesday, Sep 29, 2009 at 09:50
Agree with Rob...I use Autosol on my Harley and it works a treat.
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Tuesday, Sep 29, 2009 at 17:21
Tuesday, Sep 29, 2009 at 17:21
Yep.......I third that!
You cant beat Autosol and elbow grease.
Unless you have a buff..........
cheers
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Reply By: Member - Leave_enough_space - Tuesday, Sep 29, 2009 at 17:23
Tuesday, Sep 29, 2009 at 17:23
The surface of polished aluminium will 'fade' over time as the surface layer oxidises - it does this naturally. The oxidised layer protects the alumium alloy from wear and corrosion.
Aluminium parts are often anodised, which is a chemically accelerated oxidation process that produces thicker layers of the oxide, which in turn improves the wear and corrosion resistance.
Whilst some of the black may be dirt, it is more likely to be the aluminium/aluminium oxide being polished off the bar.
Aluminium alloys do not normally contain any carbon.
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Reply By: True Blue - Tuesday, Sep 29, 2009 at 17:43
Tuesday, Sep 29, 2009 at 17:43
Thanks everyone for your replies.
Great advice...........now back to work.
Thanks again.
True Blue.
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