V8 to 89 Terrano

Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 13:36
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Hi All,

Just wondering if someone can help me out?

I have a 89 Terrano and I am looking to put a V8 into it but wanting to know if I remove the TD27t will this affect the auto transmission in anyway.
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Reply By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 14:19

Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 14:19
I'll bite ...why would you do that?
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Reply By: woodsy85 - Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 14:25

Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 14:25
Because I drowned the poor TD27T and now is blowing heaps and heaps of white smoke when engine temp is cold and after replacing turbo, glow plugs and injectors I have given up on it.

Unless some can help diagnose what the problem is with the TD27?

Like i said change all of the above and had compression test down with good results.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 14:37

Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 14:37
did you happen to get water in the fuel tank?
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Follow Up By: woodsy85 - Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 15:11

Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 15:11
Its possible, but I have drained fuel from the fuel filter and there doesn't appear to be water in it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 15:20

Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 15:20
Does it still run Ok inspite of the smoke?
if so I would be draining the tank and all the lines including injector lines blowing air thru the lot, changing the filters and see how it goes.
If my hilux is any indication when I had an injector fault and it leaned out it blew white smoke, water diluted fuel should cause this too I would imagine.
The other way you can get white smoke and rough running is if the injector pump timing is out 180º.

From experience most diesels don't recover from a swim even if they are appearing to run Ok. We have a dyna here at work that swallowed some water and still ran ok to drive the 100km back to the depot but as a precaution they pulled it down and found that 3 of the 4 rods were actually bent.
I wouldn't think that the Terrano is wide enough between the chassis rails to fit a V8 in either.
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Follow Up By: woodsy85 - Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 15:26

Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 15:26
Hi,

Thanks for your help.

Basically the symptoms are, white smoke, run rough and hardish to start. These symptoms are only when the engine temp is cold once warm not fault can be found. (could this happen if rods where bent)

How would I go about checking if it is the injector pump?

Also could it be head gasket?

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Follow Up By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 15:32

Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 15:32
These are pretty much the same as our dyna blew bugger all smoke when warm.
If you havn't touched the pump when the injectors were done it shoudn't have changed (unless it was doing it b4 it went swimming). If the pump is electronic it may have water in a sensor or something.

If a head gasket was that bad it would overheat fairly quickly and be putting water in the oil (check underneath the radiator cap). So you have had a compression test done, were they all similar?
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Follow Up By: woodsy85 - Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 15:42

Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 15:42
Nah haven't touched the injector pump, engine was fine before it went for a dip.

Keep in mind that I don't have the electronic injections version of the terrano. The mechanic that done the compression test said there isn't anything to worry about on that side so I am guessing they are pretty similiar.

After the dip and once warm the engine seems to blow a little more black smoke then it did b4. Not sure if that means anything.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 15:50

Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 15:50
I guess all you can do is clean all the lines and the tank and maybe gently blow some air thru the pump as well and see if it blows up or throws a rod in the next few days.
Then if it does call around the wreckers and get another motor and swap all the new bits from yours onto it.

It really would be cost inhibitive to go down the V8 route especially with the engineering cert, not to mention that most insurance companies probably wouldn't want to know you.

Good luck with it and let us know how you get on.

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Reply By: Rob! - Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 15:38

Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 15:38
You know that this will cost you more than your car is worth, and how will you fit a V8 into the space of a 4 cylinder engine.
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Follow Up By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 17:39

Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 17:39
There are plenty of hilux owner's who have done it!
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Follow Up By: Rob! - Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 17:44

Wednesday, Oct 07, 2009 at 17:44
Yeah, but this is not a hilux. The terrano engine bay is probably not much bigger than one in a corolla. I think it's too much effort for a car that's worth at best $4000.
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Reply By: NUTS! - Friday, Oct 09, 2009 at 11:55

Friday, Oct 09, 2009 at 11:55
Quote: "Because I drowned the poor TD27T and now is blowing heaps and heaps of white smoke"

I'd put money on at least one bent conrod. In your case its probably only slightly bent giving slightly reduced compression, hence when it warm's up you get better ignition of the diesel and less smoke.

I've done this twice to a 4cyl diesel. 1st time was 1 bent rod, 2nd time was 3 bent rods and a large chip taken out of the bottom of 1 bore. Both times caused massive bellowing clouds of white smoke and rough idle. I fixed myself both times so wasn't that costly for me. It'll be much cheaper to replace a rod than to transplant a V8 into it.

Lesson: water does not compress, fit a snorkel ;-)

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Follow Up By: woodsy85 - Monday, Oct 12, 2009 at 13:28

Monday, Oct 12, 2009 at 13:28
Could a bent rod be changed without removing the engine to you think?
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Follow Up By: NUTS! - Monday, Oct 12, 2009 at 13:55

Monday, Oct 12, 2009 at 13:55
I doubt it, especially with an IFS vehicle.
Mine was a Nissan 720 (SD25 diesel with turbo and A/C), it had IFS and only had about an inch between the sump and the front cross member, so no chance of even getting the sump off. It should only add around about 1 day of labor to remove and re-fit the engine though, depending how cluttered the engine bay is...
By the time I sold mine I could have the engine out of the car and on a stand in about 1.5 hours.....Oh how i wish I'd made a snorkel on day 1 ;-)

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Follow Up By: NUTS! - Monday, Oct 12, 2009 at 13:58

Monday, Oct 12, 2009 at 13:58
You might be better off trying to import another TD27T engine from Japan? If you cant find one in Oz that is....

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