Plasma Rope
Submitted: Friday, Sep 19, 2003 at 02:32
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Member-The Camel(Vic)
The
old winch cable needs replacing and I was wondering if anyone knew of
a good (read
well priced) plasma rope supplier around Melb. Regards to all, Gary.
Reply By: Member - Ken - Friday, Sep 19, 2003 at 13:57
Friday, Sep 19, 2003 at 13:57
Camel
The distributors for Plasma rope are
Janrak
9 Mary St
Blackburn Vic 3130
03 97771183
03 97770709 (Fax)
or
Janrak@optusnet.com.au
Give them a ring and they should be able to solve your problem
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Follow Up By: Member-The Camel(Vic) - Friday, Sep 19, 2003 at 17:27
Friday, Sep 19, 2003 at 17:27
Thanks for your reply Ken, got onto Janrak today and got prices and
more info on the way, Regards Gary
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Sep 19, 2003 at 15:51
Friday, Sep 19, 2003 at 15:51
Theres many companies selling Plasma now, and many different types..
be careful of what you get, it aint cheap.... When my wire dies, Im going Wire again..
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Follow Up By: Member-The Camel(Vic) - Friday, Sep 19, 2003 at 17:22
Friday, Sep 19, 2003 at 17:22
Thanks Truckster, as usual your a wealth of info, will do a bit more homework before making final decision, regards Gary
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Reply By: KiwiAngler - Friday, Sep 19, 2003 at 20:45
Friday, Sep 19, 2003 at 20:45
Co-incidently I was checking out the same thing today. I have a Warn 9000 which holds 30mtr of 8mm wire (replacement cost about $245). If I was to replace with plasma I would get 45mtr of 11mm on winch cost $620. I guess you have to very quickly move past the cost issue, because it is the benefits of plasma that will decide the change. The benefits as I see them are: lighter, easier to handle, more on spool, less dangerous if it breaks.
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Follow Up By: Member-The Camel(Vic) - Friday, Sep 19, 2003 at 22:16
Friday, Sep 19, 2003 at 22:16
Thanks KiwiAngler, prices so far say 30mtr 8mm plasma $360 so compared to 30mtr 8mm wire @$245 it is more but not too far away not to warrant consideration, but if you wind a bit more on it starts to get expensive. Regards Gary
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Reply By: Chris (W.A.) - Saturday, Sep 20, 2003 at 04:37
Saturday, Sep 20, 2003 at 04:37
How often do u use it?
Gibb River in July.
Chris
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Follow Up By: Member-The Camel(Vic) - Monday, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:48
Monday, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:48
Gidday Chris, I only use it about 15 to 20 occaisons a year but will be
travelling around Aus in April to Oct 2004 so it will probably get a decent
workout then. Regards Gary
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Reply By: Roly - Saturday, Sep 20, 2003 at 08:45
Saturday, Sep 20, 2003 at 08:45
you need to look at this a different way.
i will be replacing my cable with plasma rope (not plasma brand but another one that is much cheaper but the same stuff available in aus in the next month)
why?
cos my 18 month old cable is rooted from being pinched on the drum from side pulls. its not always possible to straight pull during recoveries and the cable suffers.
plasma can be spliced if it breaks and it is light and you get more on the drum.
i bet i wont be replaing the rope after 18 months so it will pay for itself.....
Roly
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Follow Up By: Member-The Camel(Vic) - Monday, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:56
Monday, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:56
Hi Roly, you make a good point about not having to wind it onto the drum
perfectly, as that has contributed to my old cable being stuffed.
I have since spoken to local copper (they run plasma) and he rates it as
excellent, buy he's not paying for it, or putting up with wear/tear issues
purely from user point of view. Enjoying the
feedback, Regards Gary
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Reply By: Member - Jack - Saturday, Sep 20, 2003 at 20:29
Saturday, Sep 20, 2003 at 20:29
Hi Camel:
April 2003 Australian 4WD Monthly had a reasonably detailed comparison
test (laboratory) on plasma -v- steel that might be useful to you.
If you dont have a copy let me know and I'll let you have
mine.
Cheers
Jack.Australia - If you don't love it, leave!!!
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Follow Up By: Member-The Camel(Vic) - Monday, Sep 22, 2003 at 09:05
Monday, Sep 22, 2003 at 09:05
Thanks for the offer Jack will try to locate a copy, and get back to you
as I think I remember reading the article a while ago myself, If i cant
find one I will certainly contact you and thanks for the kind offer. Regards Gary
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Reply By: Eric - Saturday, Sep 20, 2003 at 21:53
Saturday, Sep 20, 2003 at 21:53
The Camel
Plastic rope is not very good as a winch rope. The reason is heat, caused by friction, if you have 2 layers on the drum wound on at low tension and then apply another layer on maximum tension the rope stretches and the first two layers start to move under high pressure and get very hot, this causes the rope to stretch even more which generates more heat and more stretch untill your truck is upside down at the bottom of the
hill. Wire is good. Eric.
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Follow Up By: Member-The Camel(Vic) - Monday, Sep 22, 2003 at 09:19
Monday, Sep 22, 2003 at 09:19
Giddday Eric, I hear what your saying and have heard
it mentioned previously as well. I guess that what I'm
really after is cable with the durability/ heat resistance
of wire but with the convenience/ kink resistance of
synthetic all at the price of ...... say cooking twine (preferably)
Regards Gary
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Reply By: Matt M - Sunday, Sep 21, 2003 at 21:08
Sunday, Sep 21, 2003 at 21:08
Has anyone actually had and used Plasma rope yet who can tell us how it went, longetivity and performance!!!
I have read the articles and have my own thoughts too, but I would like to hear from someone who has used it!!!!!
Please, I love the concept, dont rate the knockers but need facts!!
Matt.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Sep 21, 2003 at 22:06
Sunday, Sep 21, 2003 at 22:06
Go ask on outerlimits.
heaps use it and all say draggin on rocks/ground will fubar it.
YMMV.
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Follow Up By: Groove - Monday, Sep 22, 2003 at 10:26
Monday, Sep 22, 2003 at 10:26
The only critisism I have heard is that it wears or frays when pulled across rocks etc relatively easiliy but everything else I have heard or read regarding strength etc has been positive..
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