Surge protection from cheap 240v generators

Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 22:54
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Will using a multiple outlet powerboard with built in surge protector between the generator and portable electronic devices keep the devices safe from frying in the event of a surge? Happy Days. Pauper.
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Reply By: dbish - Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 23:34

Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 23:34
A surge protector is worth while Instructions with scorpion generators sugest runing 100Watt globe to absorb any spikes.
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Reply By: Star Bug - Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 00:47

Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 00:47
Surge suppessors have a very limited capacity to absorb overvoltage. they are fine for brief transient spikes. Anything bigger or of longer duration they are incapable of absorbing the spike/surge.

As for a globe..... no a lot of use either. They will not have the capacity to absorb a large surge.

Cheap gensets are poorly regulated. I've seen 390V steady state out of one unit. Brand new, out of the box.

Some people have had good runs out of these units. Some have fried thousands of dollars of gear in the blink of an eye.

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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 07:44

Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 07:44
I agree - the waveshape from cheap generators is far from Sinewave and something that would filter out the harmonics would cost as much as good generator.

Same for the variations in voltage - very expensive to regulate.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 01:33

Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 01:33
You may have some protection from power spikes with a power board that trips when overloaded (like mine just did when i was running the toaster and turned on the electric kettle), although i think it is designed to work the way it did for me, not as a guard against power spikes. For power surges you can purchase a power plug sized protector which will need replacing if it goes under a power spike (cost around $12-$16 at a guess).

Neither of these will offer any protection from damage which may be caused by a power drop.

Nor will they make pure sine wave electricity from a non sine wave generator.

Depends on the value of what you are likely to fry!


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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 07:46

Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 07:46
To summarise - a Surge Protecting power board is better than nothing - but there's still a good chance the voltage variations and non-sinewave will still damage delicate equipment.
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Reply By: Maîneÿ . . .- Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 08:53

Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 08:53
Pauper,

When you fit some 'devices' to safeguard your electronic stuff, some will only trip the power, turning it off, would be a real bugga to get home and find your fridge full of warm food :-)

Maîneÿ . . .
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Reply By: RV Powerstream P/L - Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 17:40

Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 17:40
Currently we are installing and testing two units patented and to complied to relevent standards and one is an RVD for inverters and one is an IFs for generators.

They react in 5 Milliseconds to faults and shut down the power.

They will replace earth stakes in hired equipment and are currently being fitted in Contractor pack hire generators by a major Australia supplier.

We are doing the inverters because that can then be a safe environment for children along with emergency personel at accidents and it protects person, equipment and the inverter from damage.

The items are suited to a floating power system and is about to be commercialsed in our market.

The trade name is Protex and I nicknamed it "The condom for power that protects you from a fatal dose".

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Reply By: gbc - Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 22:09

Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 22:09
We always ran an incandescent light bulb on the old gennies not to absorb spikes, but to pull them into 50 hertz, which they do very well.
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Reply By:- Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 22:31

Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 22:31
Thankyou one and all for your interesting replies. I bought a new Bell Carrol 4 stroke 1Kva 240v generator off the web for $350.00 delivered. I am going to take a chance with it and run a clock radio/CD player, a DVD player and a 12v battery charger plus lights. If desperate will try recharging mobile phone. While inspecting the generator and motor prior to starting, I found half a page from what appeared to be a chinese newspaper in the fuel tank or maybe it was the operating instructions as no paper work came with the generator. Happy Days. Pauper.
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