Coromal Pioneer

Submitted: Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 16:59
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I am considering purchasing a Coromal Pioneer PC541 pop top caravan and note that they have treg couplings. Can anyone tell me the approximate ball weight of these vans and are there any levelling devices used with them? The tow vehicle would be a 100 Series Landcruiser.
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Reply By: Member - Gary W (NSW) - Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 17:32

Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 17:32
Hi Jim,
We have the PC511 and the ball weight is pretty close to 10% of the tare weight, so I guess the ball weight for the PC541 would be about 150kg.
Do you mean levelling devices for towing? If so, then you could add a weight distribution hitch, but this should be removed if you are doing any off-road driving to allow the coupling to articulate properly.
We tow the PC511 easily with a diesel Prado, so the Landcruiser will have no problems.
Gary.
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Reply By: Ian & Sue - Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 19:55

Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 19:55
We have a PC541 and if I remember correctly when we asked about ball weight before purchasing we were told it was around the 150 - 160kg. However when we went to pick it up and with the only addition being the awning the guys put the scale under its hitch and it came up at nearly 200kgs.

We have a treg on our PC541 - we use a Hayman levelling device which cost around the $650 with a dealer discount for having bought the van.

Cheers
Sue
Geraldton WA
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Follow Up By: Ian & Sue - Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 19:57

Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 19:57
Sorry might have my terminology wrong - it is a Hayman weight distribution hitch according to my husband. Our Jeep Wrangler tows the van easily so your Landcruiser shouldnt have any problems at all.
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Reply By: Member - Phil 'n Jill (WA) - Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 20:30

Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 20:30
Hi Jim

We have a Coromal Pioneer Silhouette PS421 – the offroader with treg hitch and ball weight empty was 143kg, rising to over 200kg when loaded. As my Pajero specs listed 135kg without a WDH, I was quite concerned and spent some time researching how to shift the weight to the rear of the van rather than use a Reese style WDH because I was advised to remove it ‘offroad’. I feel they are more suited to ‘anti-sway’ control.
Eventually worked out the Pajero was fitted with a 250kg WDH – problem solved. The factory fitted hitch fits beneath the chassis like extension at each end of the standard weight bar. Suggest that type is better suited for ‘weight distribution’. Works for my setup at least.

Good luck - regards, Phil
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Reply By: Member - Jim C (NSW) - Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 22:50

Sunday, Dec 13, 2009 at 22:50
Thanks for your replies, Gary, Sue & Phil. I already have a Hayman Weight Distribution system but was wondering if the Treg coupling works O.K. with the HR or are they meant to be used without a Weight Distribution System.

Do you use weight distribution devices when towing in non off road situations such as highways. If not, does the download have any effect on steering, braking and ride.

I do appreciate that a weight distribution system may not be desirable in true off road situations.

My intended use for the Pioneer is probably 80% highway use and 20% dirt road use but with the capability of occasional excursions "off the beaten track", i.e. Oodnadatta Track, Mereenie Loop Road, Tanami Road, etc.

Thanks

Jim

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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Monday, Dec 14, 2009 at 00:36

Monday, Dec 14, 2009 at 00:36
New or used Jim? If under warranty check out the fine print for taking it on the roads you mention. I wouldn't take it on the latter two regardless.

Re WDHs - we always use ours and you can feel the difference on highways as there is more 'rocking' without it on. Far more stable right with a WDH; hardly know the van is there.

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Reply By: Ian & Sue - Monday, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:15

Monday, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:15
Our PC541 tows really well on the highway with the WDH. Off road we remove it to allow for twist and travel. Our off road has mainly been the last few kilometres into a campsite and is travelled at a very slow pace eg.camping up in the Pilbara (near the town that doesnt exist) where you have to go through wash-aways.

Its a bit of a contradiction on the Coromal adverts - they say built tough for WA conditions and then their is the fine print. Hmmm.... Ours has travelled around 15000 klms and is 12 months old - only problem so far was a snapped scupper hatch which turned out to have a flaw in the casting. Its been all over the Pilbara and along the notorious stretch from Tom Price to Karratha via Millstream. So far so good. Next year its the big lap!

I would love to hear whether you purchase the Coromal and how it goes for you as I havent reallly come across many owners of the newer Coromals PC's.

Sue
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Reply By: ozjohn0 - Monday, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:36

Monday, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:36
Jim,
For the sort of towing you anticipate why not remove the Tregg Hitch and fit a standard 50mm Balll Coupling . Used with a WDH it will provide you with all you need. The Tregg like a Hyland 50mm Hitch are designed for the really rough stuff that includes steep declines in and out of creek beds etc.
ozjohn.
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Reply By: jeep cherokee - Monday, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:07

Monday, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:07
Jim, have you considered putting airbag suspension on the rear.I have had them fitted to both my towing vehicles over the years.The TBW of our Coromal is 132kg and the air bags handle this with ease.The bonus is that once you are unhitched you just deflate the airbags to aroung 10p.s.i and youre done till the next time.No extra weight either unlike a WDH.They are good for offroad and onroad situations too.
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