High Intensity Discharge Electrical System

Submitted: Sunday, Sep 28, 2003 at 20:46
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Just read in the latest Opposite Lock brochure about a High Intensity discharge system which supposedly give better illumination to your driving lights.
Has anyone had experience with them and do they do what they claim to do.
I haven't looked at their web site yet but the address is www.oppositelock.com
Thanks.Al Symers
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Reply By: Member - Toonfish - Sunday, Sep 28, 2003 at 23:07

Sunday, Sep 28, 2003 at 23:07
g,day Al if you are looking at getting some give me a call
i dont sell them but i got a sweet priceon new lightforce.
decuisine1@iprimus.com.au
cheers
had a ball today1999 NISSAN NAVARA DUALCAB
DIESEL 3.2 & SPRINGY CARLTON TOY
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Sep 29, 2003 at 13:12

Monday, Sep 29, 2003 at 13:12
if your talkin about the outerlimits deal, they arent HID's.
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Follow Up By: Member - Toonfish - Monday, Sep 29, 2003 at 23:58

Monday, Sep 29, 2003 at 23:58
yeah just re read my post
i was tired .
not a bad deal though1999 NISSAN NAVARA DUALCAB
DIESEL 3.2 & SPRINGY CARLTON TOY
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Reply By: Dennis (Brisbane) - Sunday, Sep 28, 2003 at 23:33

Sunday, Sep 28, 2003 at 23:33
Essentially they are the same technology (and style) as what is used in those really bright white street lights.

Very low wattage (35W) for very high light output.

But............. (there's always a but)

That sort of light doesn't come cheap, I recently saw an ad for a set of KC HID lights ............... at US$1,363.31 a pair. KC HID lights
(even those street lights are damn expensive to buy and repair, and smaller means dearer of course)

That's a lot of $$$ to flush away when you get a rock in one or smash one on some foliage (accidentally of course).

Then there is the extra costs for repair. Not only are the bulbs bloody expensive, they use ballasts in them as well. Blow a ballast and a bulb and you can probably kiss goodbye to a weeks wages.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, maybe those Supercheap $49 sealed beam specials aren't too bad after all lol
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Reply By: horrace - Monday, Sep 29, 2003 at 04:58

Monday, Sep 29, 2003 at 04:58
Not sure if you are refering to inserts? I work in the Andes and have bought 10 pair of Hella DID predators for work utes. I can tell you they were around $1500ea not the pair, but they are worth it. Driving through 5000m at night dodging llamas, pigs, people etc is now a hell of a lot easier and the trucks on the Panamericana highway now dip their lights once i give em retiner burn!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Wherethehellawi - Monday, Sep 29, 2003 at 08:12

Monday, Sep 29, 2003 at 08:12
Truckies might swear by them but at (when I priced them from my inlaw - his own auto-electrical business they were $900 each ...) at those prices i couldnt justify the expense. Wow! am I cute
If yer ain't fishing, Yer ain't livin
Richard
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Reply By: horrace - Monday, Sep 29, 2003 at 08:59

Monday, Sep 29, 2003 at 08:59
Has anyone put those IRD, infra red discharge or something like that, bulbs in their cruiser?? i read the article in a mag and they were around $250 a pair and only availble for the 100 series.
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Follow Up By: Simon - Monday, Sep 29, 2003 at 17:24

Monday, Sep 29, 2003 at 17:24
HIR from IPF (ARB) are what you mean I think Horrace.
Around $200 a pair but a 100 series has 4 seperate globes (2 low beam and 2 hi beam) so kiss goodbye to $400+ just to do your headlights.

HID are a different ballgame altogether, around $1500 to just do low beam only!!

Maybe the cheapest HID option would be the Hella Ralley FF1000 HIDs, If you were in the know you maybe able to get a pair for just over a $1000?

If you look around you wont even find too many on trucks in Australia yet because its very hard to justify that cost even to a professional driver that may do 200 000km per year in the dark.

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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Sep 29, 2003 at 13:14

Monday, Sep 29, 2003 at 13:14
HID's are insanly priced, they are only lights.. Not worth

Anyone who spends $1000-2000 pr or ea on lights has manure for brains.

Simple fact! YMMV
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Reply By: Member - Al Symers (SA) - Monday, Sep 29, 2003 at 21:57

Monday, Sep 29, 2003 at 21:57
Thanks for your replies everyone. At the costs your quoting me, I'll be looking at other options including yours toonfish.
Thanks again.Al Symers
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Reply By: Alan H - Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 13:02

Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 13:02
When I worked in the Derby and Fitzroy area years ago, the locals reckoned on travelling at a max. of 80 klms/hr because of the livestock on the roads at night.
As far as they were concerned if you went any faster and a bull, roo or whatever jumps out in front of you, then it's your fault if you get injured or wreck the vehicle.
By all means buy decent lights to give you every chance, but to waste thousands is more ego than any concerns for safety.
Drive within the range of your lights at all times, and keep the speed down!
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Reply By: Eric - Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 16:40

Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003 at 16:40
Al

I find the normal head lights are fine if you drive at safe speeds and turn off any lights in the cabin, just one Led in a phone or radio is enough to reduce the sensitivity of you eyes by a huge amount. When I was driving in army exercises we drove with no head lights at all, once you eliminated every little source of light your side of the windscreen you could drive at 50ks on a clear knight. Eric.
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Follow Up By: Alan H - Wednesday, Oct 01, 2003 at 17:11

Wednesday, Oct 01, 2003 at 17:11
Yes, Eric, eliminate all the other unnecessary light in the cab, have clean windscreen inside and out, clean headlights, and drive at a reasonable speed.
You're never going to eliminate all risks but you'll be much safer if you do those simple things first.
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