Dual Rear wheel carrier

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Hi everyone the question has probably been asked before. What would be the better dual wheel carrier when comparing the ARB and Kaymar offerings, my wife likes the ARB item more because she feels it looks like it was made for the vehicle as compared to the Kaymar. When comparing them I think that the ARB item feels to be of lighter construction and may not cope as well with harder use. Regards Roger
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Reply By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 16:57

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 16:57
Hi Roger,
Do you realise how much extra weight the dual carrier (plus bar) adds to your vehicle ? I have one on my Troopy and it's real heavy. Works well and is really solid, I am not familiar with the ARB carrier. What sort of vehicle do you have ?

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Follow Up By: Member - Roger S (WA) - Thursday, Jan 07, 2010 at 12:38

Thursday, Jan 07, 2010 at 12:38
Hi there thanks for your reply I am aware of the weight factors but figure that there are not a lot of options. Basically the rear door squeaks with current tire and I don't really want to install a roof rack. I have a 2005 4.2 GU Patrol.

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Reply By: Member - lyndon NT - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 17:14

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 17:14
I have a Kaymar and it is real heavy! If I had my time again I probably wouldn't get a rear wheel carrier, I would carry a tyre with no rim on the roof. The reality is how often will you need it? I have had 3 punctures in 20 years.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil B (WA) - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 19:40

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 19:40
Hi Lyndon,

Its horses for courses and it depends where you go and how much time you spend out in the never never.

You have had 3 punctures in 20 years. I have had 2 punctures in one hour and 7 in one week. To me a dual wheel carrier is essential, I go way out and remote and punctures are part of the 'fun'

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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon NT - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 20:26

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 20:26
Hi Phil
True, horses for courses. I don't do desert stuff so maybe that is where you get punctures running low pressures? I still bet that 90% of people who have a duel wheel carrier don't need it. At 2.5k to purchase, and at least 150kg extra weight it really does need to be justified. for me it's best feature is as a jacking point.
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Reply By: Mick O - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 17:14

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 17:14
Have a look at the latching and locking systems on both. The ARB bar is very easy to knock out of alignment and once done, it won't close properly. ARB looks great but the Opposite Lock, Kaymar and others can be a lot more robust.

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Reply By: Member - Warwick D (SA) - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 19:19

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 19:19
Greetings all, I have the ARB twin wheel carriers. You really need to upgrade the suspension with springs,shockers,air-bags, whichever is your choice. They are strong and can take anything you can dish out. A bit of a annoyance having to open both to get into the rear doors. SHort trips this bugs me, long ones it is good to have the storage space clear. I think it depends on how long/off-bitumen your trips sre. I prefer the ARB for this. Hope this gives food for your own judgement. WD
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Reply By: Member - Phil B (WA) - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 19:43

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 19:43
Hi Roger,

I favour the Op Lock carrier, its one piece, solid and when I bought mine for the 100s it was cheaper than ARB and Kaymar.

Whilst I like most ARB gear I found the ARB carrier seemed to be made of lots of pieces bolted together. I wasn't keen on that.

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Reply By: Member - Kevin B1 (WA) - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 20:30

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 20:30
Ultimate 4WD in Cannington also do one I am told a bit cheaper, may be an idea to have a look at their website or give them a ring.
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Reply By: Member - Keith C (NSW) - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 21:17

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 21:17
G/day Roger,I have an O/Lock rear bar,wheel carrier,jerry holder,well made and a neat fit on the 80s,$2200 fitted in 2007.

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Reply By: Fatso - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 22:04

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 22:04
What makes 2 spares the magic number?
I mean, why is it 2 & not 3, or even 4?
Why 2?
Lynden said in a reply that he got 7 in one hour.
How does he come to the conclusion that 2 is the correct number?
I have never carried 2 spares & wonder why people criticise me for that when they are but don't carry adequate repair gear in case they get more than 2 punctures. I carry plenty of repair gear.
So help a redneck out here please & try & justify why it is 2 & not some other figure of say 3 or 4 or even 1.
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 22:43

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 22:43
Fatso

Because they look pritty on the back of the Troopy + it's one more than it came with + most book's state take at least 2 share wheels ..

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She was only a baby then...

+ you can hang two dity bags off them..

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Follow Up By: Member - Royce- Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 23:37

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 23:37
I once had a flat on my way from Robe SA to Warrnambool.... late at night, in the rain. I had to be there in the morning to make $1500 booking.

I managed to change the wheel and sweated my way for the next three hours hoping I wouldn't get another flat without a spare..... Made it.... and as I got in the old Troopie to travel home I noticed that the spare had gone flat. I fitted a second spare after that trip. Never got two flats again!

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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 23:47

Monday, Jan 04, 2010 at 23:47
Hear where you're coming from...

It's not the two flats that you have to worry about it's when you destroy a tyre or rim.. :-(

Did a tyre on the CT on the birdsville track once only one spare sweated all the way to birdsville only to get a new tyre for the CT and a spare tyre to put on the roof... cost over $300.00 in 2004 for 13" car tyre.. still had that spare tyre 5 years latter... thems the breaks..

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Reply By: Member - Gizmo-Tron - Tuesday, Jan 05, 2010 at 06:10

Tuesday, Jan 05, 2010 at 06:10
Hi

I ended up getting one of these Site Link
Half the price of ARB & you can remove the arms when not required, With the ARB bar you can't just undo a bolt & take an arms off.

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Follow Up By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Tuesday, Jan 05, 2010 at 08:07

Tuesday, Jan 05, 2010 at 08:07
Kaymar on mine......... strong as an ox, and also heavy! Remember that you will probably need to upgrade suspension to take the extra weight, but for the purpose of having the two spares on your rear, worth it's weight!!

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Reply By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Tuesday, Jan 05, 2010 at 08:10

Tuesday, Jan 05, 2010 at 08:10
^^^^^^^^^^ Derrrr..... wrong button sorry, this was meant to be here...

Kaymar on mine......... strong as an ox, and also heavy! Remember that you will probably need to upgrade suspension to take the extra weight, but for the purpose of having the two spares on your rear, worth it's weight!!

Cheers

Brian
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Reply By: Member - Ingo57 (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 05, 2010 at 09:33

Tuesday, Jan 05, 2010 at 09:33
Gday Roger,

I have a Strong Arm wheel carrier from K & N, half the price of Kaymar/ARB.
Been pretty happy with it so far and they are also lighter than the other two brands

http://www.kn4wd.com.au/wheelcarriers.php

Hope this helps

Cheers

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Reply By: Muddie - Tuesday, Jan 05, 2010 at 09:59

Tuesday, Jan 05, 2010 at 09:59
I have replaced my ARB rear bar after it failed me the second time (weld broke & pivot bearing) I think it is a bit to complicated in design. You get what you pay for? I now run a Slee

David



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Reply By: Member - John Baas (WA) - Tuesday, Jan 05, 2010 at 14:39

Tuesday, Jan 05, 2010 at 14:39
Like others it depends what you're doing. I have a LC200 which came with the spare underneath (which I always think is a crappy spot).

But I wanted to install a long range auxilliary fuel tank so it had to be removed. I go remote area touring and I reckon two wheels (ie not just tyres) is the minimum. So it had to be a carrier plus a suspension upgrade for the weight of the new tank, fuel, extra spare. Them's the breaks.

I also carry all the repair stuff and a couple of spare tyres as necesary.


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Reply By: Member - Roger S (WA) - Thursday, Jan 07, 2010 at 12:40

Thursday, Jan 07, 2010 at 12:40
HI everyone who has provided comments thanks for your time and assistance.
Regards, Roger
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